“PatrickD, I suppose that you do not realize that you just passed on some TOTAL BULLSHIT with the following story, when you said—”
Really. Oh my bad. I deserve a good birching.
I’ve had that belief for a great many years. I guess it’s not only children who can be gullible.
“—perhaps because those who competed with him in science were more concerned with promoting themselves and their own concepts”
I think you are probably right-------in the 19070’s, there were 2 universities in this city. Both offered Psych courses. One used behaviourism ,and was sneeringly referred to as “rats’n’ stats”. The other took a Marxist approach.
The friend who told me the Skinner story went to the Marxist uni. Didn’t occur to be that he might be full of it. Thanks to you, I have begun changing my belief on that matter… In order not to be gullible again, I think I need to do some more reading.
I hold my position that such an experiment is both unethical and pointless. I remain unconvinced that it would be unlikely that all the important variables could be discovered and measured. I hope never to find out.
Wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the Soviets ran that kind of experiment. The Nazis certainly would have if they had thought of it. I think they were trying to do much the same thing with children, only replacing"god" with Adolf Hitler and The Party.
“But it does not strike me as unethical for parents to choose to raise their children with limited exposure to religious ideas, and to, instead, provide their children with rational answers, explanations, and teachings. In fact, this would seem to me to be more ethical than teaching their children to take on superstitious beliefs.”
Over the years, I’ve known families like that.I know one right now. He’s an astrophysicist, she’s a civil servant. I’ve always been terribly envious. I was raised and educated (if you’ll pardon the expression) to be an insufferable little Catholic prig. I’ve done my best to rid myself of that pernicious collection of woo , hateful superstitions and bigotry over the last 50 years…
Of course, most Aussie kids are raised from a vague secular humanist perspective, absent any reliance on reason. En masse the average Aussie goes to Church on three kinds of occasions; hatches, matches and dispatches.
A common Aussie attitude is “'I’m here for a god time, not a long time” Hedonistic? Abso-bloody-lutely