IMHO JC Superstar is the best version of the story of the adult JC including up to his crucifixion.
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Purely semantic. Itās a matter of opinion if eliminating poverty is plausible or some ideal.
Two things:
(1) No, because the method is completely different. We start from the empirical material reality, to incrementally improve it. That means we can only aim for ālessā and not for āmoreā. Indeed, when somebody is sick, the goal is to make them less sick, not healthy, which in practice would make no sense since the empirical material reality serving as starting point is nothing else than sickness.
(2) Yes, in some way it is also semantics. But I hold it makes a HUUGE difference to have goals rather than to have dreams. When you have goals, you are forced to consider whether they are plausible or not, you are forced to see whether and to what extent the means you employ to attain them are efficient in attaining them, you are forced to see whether your means donāt lead to unintended consequences (a concept very important in free-market theory, against the good intentions and the economic and social plannig of the communists and socialists[1]) etc. It is the contrary for ādreamsā. So I am not a dreamer, and I hope I am not the only one @coffee
[1] Although I link to ReasonTV for illustration of my point, please do not associate me with ReasonTV. They are too much hippie and libertarian for me. I am not a libertarian/anarcho-capitalist, but a classical liberal (= for an economically and politically liberal nation-state) and a secular humanist (= Reason and science)
(1) too much there left to deal with, you canāt get everyone to on āempirical material realityā
(2) i agree with your definition of āgoalā, but nothing there that says to not have dreams. If anything, your goals flow out of your dreams.
Agreed. JC Superstar was a bit of cosmic insight for me. A human version, a believable dynamic with characters I could recognize, rather than the idealized fantasies of the god fearing.
And it has the music to grab that spiritual strain within us.
You know music can not just get into your backbone and make you dance, but it can dig into your insides, touch a heart like nothing else. Thatās why I like saying music is the purest form of religion there is, it focus on making community and the enjoying the moment and feelings - all the daily toil stays at the door. (or something like that 
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Sounds like a contrived YouTube series, yeah people do stupid things all the time. Even those who love laughing at others stupidity have a good change of being guilty of just as much stupid decision making.
As for your quote, who is this idealized āyouā youāre referring to?
Do you seriously think most people are thoughtful and deliberative in their actions?
Should USA change our motto to All Men Are Equal, but Some Are More Equal Than Others? That might be more realistic, but is it a good idea? Would that could have a weird impact on peopleās behavior?
May I ask to develop a little bit?
ābut nothing there that says to not have dreamsā, true, I did not develop that aspect
True, true.
Back to the drawing board. 
Sometimes, less sick is the best we can do. Take the COVID-19 vaccines. If one gets vaccinated and still gets COVID, they will not get as sick and possibly die if they do get COVID. So less sick is sometimes the best we can do for some.
However, I do believe everyone is entitled to health care, housing, education, clothing, clean water (water is life), healthy food, and basic income. Basic income doesnāt mean they get live free, but it will help to pay for needs when unemployed, disabled, elderly, or for whatever reason one canāt work. It will not cover a luxury lifestyle. Everyone is still expected to contribute to society in some way, unless they are physically incapable of doing so. I agree though, this sounds like the utopia of Star Trek, but I think it is doable is the human race could and would get together and stop hating others for stupid reasons.
So I think it is an example where we donāt start from actual reality and improve it incrementally, but have a priori expectations about how reality should look like, and we forcefully make reality obey to it. The problem is that can it leave to us with unintended consequences (one example being skyrocketing public dept), harming the very expectations.
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Did you forget where this conversation about dreams and goals began? This is what Iāve been pointing out, that you just post to post. You start to develop a line of logic, then you drop it when itās inconvenient.
āI would like to ask whether you donāt think it is dangerous to hold ideals that one knows are unreachable.ā is I think what I have been developing thereafter.
Or maybe you could be more explicit instead of saying āyou just post to post.ā
I agree, but I also agree that it has itās inherit problems too.
Which inherit problems?
I was explicit for 19 posts. Then you hit the reset button. Can you be explicit about the thing you started, that ideals are dangerous? Or respond to any of the explicit things Iāve already explicitly said about that?
Increase in taxes, for one.
It did have some props that out of time, but yes.
Neuro-stimulating music.
Or AKA stimulating neuro-chemicals in the brain.
Thatās like saying: āItāll all in your headā.
Yes it is.
Neuro-chemicals is the mechanism of internal communication, is that a problem?
Does that make the experience less real?
Are we supposed to be ashamed or disappointed that our body functions via neuron-chemicals working together with other biological and physical mechanisms.
I mean why make it sound wrong, or distasteful, or unbecoming or embarrassing or what ever the heck, with being a biological creature?
It is, but not in the way you are thinking. Neurochemicals in the brain, which are triggered by external stimuli, are what gives us the feelings we often have. This doesnāt mean itās all in your head in the derogatory sense. It just means oneās brain is functioning and reacting to external stimuli. However, we also use our brains to decide how to bodily react to something. Sometimes we just react with a gasp of awe and wonder or surprise. Are brains are very awesome machines, which react to the universe that it is very much a part of.
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Though you danced around my main queries. 
OK then Iāll answer your main inquiries directly. Itās not a problem, itās just how our body functions and you canāt separate the body and mind. Itās completely real, chemistry and all. There is no shame in being human with a fully functional body. I donāt think I made it sound wrong or distasteful or unbecoming or embarrassing. I think you perceived it that way for whatever reason. I just spelled it out as it is, which is neither good or bad.
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