So The Turtle says that he is willing to negotiate on laws for mental health and school safety.
So we’ll institutionalize those deemed dangerous, and we’ll rebuild our schools based on Prison blueprints.
… as long as everybody can continue to buy their slaughtering tools.
Take another look at the post you’re answering.
An AR15 would work for some of those, but I don’t think the people who buy it like the AR15 as a hunting rifle as much as they just like the way it looks.
I don’t know. One possibility is the kind of cops who end up guarding schools might be the least reliable.
It’s power. The knowledge that you have death in your hands lessens the flight or fight instinct in favor of “fight”. That has a marked psychological impact on the ego.
Remember the saying “drunk with power” ?
Sometimes you just don’t seem to have read the news. They weren’t the school guards.
True enough but there are other rifles just as powerful but not as popular. The image of this weapon matters a lot. Owning one has also become a political statement.
Any way, a society in which schools need to be guarded by armed people makes me afraid and sad .
Schools should be open to the city, to the people, to the society, inclusively .
Oh, perhaps I’m mistaken. This article states: “[…]most mass shooters across all categories do not have a prior history of mental health treatment.[…]”
Read something else today. The cops realize that they can’t stop the killing. They know what response times are, and they know they are just that, “response” times. They can’t prevent these crimes, just like they can’t prevent most crimes once the criminal has made their decision. The pro-gun people have that part of narrative right. Either we become more of a police state, which neither pro or anti gun want, or they get to be the ones who run in after people who have with assault weapons have gained the tactical advantage .
The faster they run in, the more likely one of them will be killed, and even though they will likely get the criminal or the criminal will kill themselves, that will only fuel the narrative that cops can prevent more shooting. We have created Vietnam and Afghanistan on our own soil.
here’s the source
But the impact of mass shootings on the emotions of respondents lasts for only a few days, and then it is gone, indistinguishable from the longer time trend. This isn’t true for everyone, of course — the groups that have mobilized against gun violence in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, Parkland and other tragedies have done heroic work, facing off against the full force of the gun lobby. But the survey finding may provide a hint about why these episodes of uniquely American horror have not translated into widespread changes in legislation designed to prevent the next mass shooting or the thousands of “routine” shootings that destroy American lives, families and communities every year. Research has shown that mass shootings lead to an increase in the number of gun-related bills introduced at the state level, but with few exceptions, they tend not to lead to the passage of legislation designed to confront gun violence. In fact, the sick reality of our gun politics has led to the opposite: In Republican-controlled state legislatures, mass shootings are associated with a large increase in legislation designed to loosen gun restrictions.
To be clear, there is no evidence of a causal connection between Americans’ emotional response to this kind of incident and the behavior of state or federal legislators. But the pattern of policy responses to mass shootings suggests a link. In the days after the latest mass shooting, politicians express their outrage, their thoughts and prayers, and some put forth new proposals to finally confront the problem with meaningful legislation. A few days pass, and the raw emotions we are all feeling dissipate, even if we’re reluctant to admit it. As the attention of the nation shifts, that legislation stalls, and the organized, well-funded forces that favor guns over children’s lives flex their muscles.
I think this was added by the facebook poster
"I’m still thinking about Buffalo and Uvalde. This morning, I found myself wondering why officers don’t rush in to confront mass shooters.
My theory is at the point they’re expected to risk their life, they can’t help but ask “what am I dying for?”
The answer could be “to save a few children,” and that would be a very compelling reason for a selfless person.
But this is not a selfless nation; this is a selfish, everyone-for-themself, you’re-on-your-own nation.
[unless you’re someone white nationalists and theocrats and predatory capitalists want to control.]
Ultimately, even kids are on their own here.
At the same time, I have to imagine a kind of clarity arrives to officers at the moment the shooter shows up. Officers stop caring about the job they’re paid to do (the benefits they receive, etc.), and they realize they’re being asked (by the gun lobby and by conservative politicians who always “thank the brave first responders”) to do something none of those people are willing to do —
intervene to stop mass killings.
They have to wonder “why me? Why ONLY me?”
In that moment, they probably realize their life has no real value beyond its ability to allow more guns to be sold.
At war, a solider fights with the goal of ending war or gaining peace or stopping a despicable foe. If war seems like it will never end, the soldier’s cause explodes. They’re not fighting for peace or freedom; they’re fighting for more death.
The reality is an officer who rushes in to stop one mass shooter not only risks their life, not only realizes another mass shooting is only a day or two away, not only understands other officers will be asked to do the same thing over and over and over, but they also run the risk of promoting / allowing more bad policy.
Their heroic efforts might actually further delay necessary reform. "
Its illegal to use an AR to hunt where I live what kind of people hunt with an AR any real hunter would laugh right in their face the goal is to take it down the prey with one shot there is no sport with an AR its just a massacre but I guess that’s how Americans hunt.
This is the “gift” link
It’s not about hunting. There is a nearly complete disconnect between the “self defense” people and the hunters.
I was in a court case once Americans came up and started shooting geese with a rifle and it was a semi so the game warden was around and we reported it as a witnesses - they took all their gun s and deported them. You cannot hunt water fowl with a rifle here but I guess your can in the states. We like to give the animals a chance here.
Sadly, pretty much, which is sad.
All three groups are bad about being authoritarian and leaving people on their own. They don’t care.
4 more today bring it to 233 for the year this guy bought an AR just before he did it.
Hmm…
Maybe if there were red-flag laws
The nation’s first anti-red flag gun law is now on the books in Oklahoma to strengthen and protect citizens’ Second Amendment rights. Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow, authored the measure, which was signed into law by the governor on Tuesday. Just a little over a year ago!)
Maybe if there were wait periods.
Maybe if training and certs were required
Maybe if they just weren’t available at all…
How come we have all these other countries that do not have this problem. This is only in the USA why do you think its like that? It happen rarely in other countries and today the USA has 233 for the year. If your honest you know the answer.
Because they don’t have Constitution with a 2nd Amendment.