MPC, handwaving doesn’t count as a response.
If I want to see animal behaviour in humans realised as such by seeing the reverse, I look to the works of Frans De Waal and scientists of that calibre.
Science is hard work. Projection is easy.
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I just go to Walmart where I hear small human apes make chimp sounds and sometimes the adult too. They all show ape behaviours of some sort while there. It’s not too hard to see what humans really are at Walmart. If I knew of someone majoring in Psychology or Sociology and needed to do some research, I’d suggest they go to Walmart and just observe.
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Pray tell what are you going on about now?
I mean are you familiar with deWaal’s work?
Frans de Waal’s 2013 book The Bonobo and the Atheist examines human behavior through the eyes of a primatologist, and explores to what extent God and religion are needed for human morality. The main conclusion is that morality comes from within, and is part of human nature. The role of religion is secondary.[10]
The possibility that empathy resides in parts of the brain so ancient that we share them with rats should give pause to anyone comparing politicians with those poor, underestimated creatures.
—Frans de Waal[9]
His research into the innate capacity for empathy among primates has led De Waal to the conclusion that non-human great apes and humans are simply different types of apes, and that empathic and cooperative tendencies are continuous between these species. His belief is illustrated in the following quote from The Age of Empathy : “We start out postulating sharp boundaries, such as between humans and apes, or between apes and monkeys, but are in fact dealing with sand castles that lose much of their structure when the sea of knowledge washes over them. They turn into hills, leveled ever more, until we are back to where evolutionary theory always leads us: a gently sloping beach.”
This is quite opposite to the view of some economists and anthropologists, who postulate the differences between humans and other animals.
Heck don’t they have YouTube channels dedicated to Walmart Wild Life Viewing - eye popping stuff.
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Why would I cite him if I weren’t? Even with an erroneous capital DEE.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out!
First your complaining about anthropomorphizing scientists, then you bring up a pioneer in breaking that taboo, someone who took some heat for “anthropomorphizing” animal behavior.
Again I’m simply trying to figure out what you’re going on about and what’s at the bottom of your weird comments (excuse my undercurrent of irritation, but you are irritating, though I imagine that’s by design, still this is a discussion forum.).
Is it all for effect or was there something you had in mind that was worth conveying along the lines of why you give the impression that you think, de Waal is a hero, but other following in the same line of study are worth derision?
What did they do to earn your derision?
Franciscus Bernardus Maria “Frans” de Waal (born October 29, 1948) is a Dutch primatologist and ethologist. He is the Charles Howard Candler Professor of PrimateBehavior in the Department of Psychology at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, director of the Living Links Center at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center at Emory,[1] and author of numerous books including Chimpanzee Politics (1982) and Our Inner Ape (2005).
The possibility that empathy resides in parts of the brain so ancient that we share them with rats should give pause to anyone comparing politicians with those poor, underestimated creatures.
—Frans de Waal[9]
Oh and if it’s just the title that rattled your sensibilities, couldn’t at least have the decency to acknowledge that was an editorial choice out of the hands of the said article’s author(s)?
Why are you telling me what I already know about this great scientist?
They do. :lol:
Bringing it back to great floods that humans may have witnessed, even the America’s gets into that act,
How 7,000 Years of Epic Floods Changed the World (w/ SciShow!)
Strange geologic landmarks in the Pacific Northwest are the lingering remains of a mystery that took nearly half a century to solve. These features turned out to be a result one of the most powerful and bizarre episodes in geologic history: this region experienced dozens of major, devastating floods over the course of more than 7,000 years.
Thanks to Franz Anthony and Studio 252mya for the flood and lake illustrations. You can find more of Franz’s work here: https://252mya.com/gallery/franz-anthony