Population in the world is currently (2020) growing at a rate of around 1.05% per year (down from 1.08% in 2019, 1.10% in 2018, and 1.12% in 2017). The current average population increase is estimated at 81 million people per year.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
As long as there is a net increase in population, even if it is 1%, the population will double in a mere 70 years.
If we have 7.8 billion people today, at our current rate we will have some 15 billion people in 1 generation (70 years)
Rat you still don’t get it. Everyone here has done nothing but dodge the issue of nihilism. The people you know see the world without the veil anymore and it’s hard to cope with, like waking up to a lie you have lived for so long, thrust from the warm cocoon and into an unfeeling and unyielding world. They want to go back but can’t, they aren’t shunning the world but rather they are seeing it for what it always was. Everyone else is just ignoring and trying to convince themselves otherwise. That people matter, that there is meaning.
Anyone should be able to identify a problem when it results in destruction of the planet we live on and the torturous death by starvation, disease and conflict, of millions of my fellow humans.
That I, personally, don’t have the solution to this problem is unfortunate. But since no one has the solution, I don’t feel as stupid as you are want me to feel.
I said that the video somewhat captured it in that it mentions the “lies” we tell ourselves. When you boil it all down the things we take to exist or have meaning tend to be nothing but air. All anyone on this thread has ever done was avoid nihilism as it is and pull out by trying to drape meaning and value over it. I know this is a broken record, but the “solutions” you guys offer are anything but. No one has given a solution to the meaninglessness of life.
greenfist: "3point. Its clear to all that you have mo idea what you are talking about"
Says the guy who has offered zero ideas or arguments of his own. No one knows what (or if) you think because you haven't said anything. Calling out others while hiding behind empty words is a precarious place from which to pick a fight.
Feel free to demonstrate your vast intellect by giving your view on anything I’ve said. Be sure to include your solutions or ideas, rather than harp on my inability to solve the worlds problems to your satisfaction.
(Remember, people here can read and think, so if you try to use more strawmen, they’ll instantly see them.)
You can’t really solve what is, hence what Death meant by the lies we believe in order to buy into the big ones. The author I cited says something in a similar vein though I think his aim is doomed to fail.
That link is completely irrelevant to the topic, not to mention that subject matter has been beaten to death already. Is reality real? What do we mean by reality? We only know reality through our sense, blah blah blah. These people need to move on to more useful topics.
If you look at my posts to snowcity, you won’t get a very good sense of who I interact with people in general. He has been here for a long time and has made posts like this one repeatedly. He does what he just did with you. It doesn’t much matter what others say, he will tell you that you are off topic, that you didn’t address his concerns, and you are just wrong.
EmotionalStrawberry: “OP may be a lost cause, but as a forum for discussion we have to keep an open mind. Trying to look at things objectively and hold back on our on biases. Inherently, you cannot convince someone of your truth because they are not looking at the world through your brain. Truth becomes subjective in that sense.”
I try to keep that in mind whenever I discuss something with someone who seems to be refusing to look at what I am saying. It is always possible that they are simply incapable of seeing what I am saying due to their mental abilities, life experiences, personality, emotional state, education, etc.
No two people see things the same way. It would be nice if we did, but we don’t, so we either abandon attempts at communicating or we spend time, effort and buckets of patience trying to.
Sometimes you fail and you have to give up before you reach through the monitor and strangle the other person. But there are occasions where barriers break down and the time, effort and patience is rewarded. If you keep your expectations low when dealing with a specific few on this forum, you’re certain to enjoy your time here.
I agree with your premise in that post, but not with your conclusion.
Actually, regardless of the drawbacks of trusting our own perceptions, I think that it is quite functional to trust your perceptions to the extent that they seem to fit the “facts” as best as we can determine them. Otherwise we can onlycarry on as if we know nothing. I don’t see how that works.
But if you are right, I must be quite cocky, ignorant, stupid, and have a massive ego, because I am often convinced that I am right. Though often, I realize that I am only probably right, and sometimes I know that, like Jon Snow, I know nothing.
Also meaning and purpose don’t logically follow from such an acknowledgment. Once again you post something that does not follow. Knowing that reality is only what we perceive it to be and that our senses are flawed doesn’t mean that meaning and purpose correlate from that. Nihilism argues that there is no meaning to the universe so your argument isn’t valid.
Neither of the previous two posts are. I'd be curious to know what you are referring to. I've spent way too much time comparing your words to definitions, but I'm still curious.
Nature of reality very much concerns with the meaning or purpose of life. If you can see that the reality and perception is an illusion and a subjective experience at best, then you would understand that meaning and purpose are directly a correlation of that perspective.
I’m not here to convince you of anything. You come to your own conclusions. Its your quest and your problem to figure things out. Good luck.