I am an AMH humanist

The world is becoming more secular. France will have a majority secular population soon. So will the Netherlands and New Zealand. The United Kingdom and Australia will soon lose Christian majorities and finally America’s obscene Christian regions are losing their stranglehold.

An increasing percent of the American population are understanding the stories created within the Biblical era were created for the people of the Biblical era. The genre of storytelling during the Biblical era often involved imaginative supernatural characters and events interlaced in the story. The story spread by tribal oral tradition. Supernatural was not a word during the Biblical era it was a way of life.

I am a member of the human species H. sapiens Anatomically Modern Human AMH. Animism was originally the religion of all Hunter-Gatherers, our ancestors for most of the last 200,000 years. How do we know that? Through archaeological traces of our ancestors and comparative anthropological studies of present-day hunter gatherers, all of whom are animists. Animism is basically a belief that every part of the world is suffused with spirit and is therefore sacred. It stands apart from brand-name-religions in which only certain things, like a particular text, such as a bible, or building, like a church, mosque, or synagogue, is sacred, and the rest of the world is regarded as profane.

Our present culture started only about 10,000 years ago. So, the original religion of most of humanity has been Animism for 95% of the time we have been here.

There is some confusion about the difference between Hunter-Gatherers, Indigenous people, Primitive or Tribal people, and so on. People like the Maasai and Bantu of Africa, and many American Indians, were not Hunter-Gatherers. They are or were horticulturalists, that is, people who till small gardens, or agriculturalists who farm, or pastoralists who herd animals.

Animism can also be distinguished from Paganism in that Pagan means “of the country” and refers to farmers. Animism is the most ancient religion. Although there is some controversy regarding the derivation of the word “religion” – most people agree that it is from the Latin religare (to bind strongly. So Animism is like other religions in that it involves being strongly bound, but it differs in that its binding is to the Universe rather than to a particular deity.


“A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe as revealed by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by conventional faiths. Sooner or later, such a religion will emerge.” – Carl Sagan, Astronomer & science writer, 1994

How is it possible that any modern educated person could take the bible literally? or even take the bible seriously?

1946-1952 - The Revised Standard Version is published. 1947-1956 - The Dead Sea Scrolls are discovered. 1971 - The New American Standard Bible (NASB) is published. 1973 - The New International Version (NIV) is published. 1982 - The New King James Version (NKJV) is published. 1996 - The New Living Translation (NLT) is published. 2001 - The English Standard Version (ESV) is published.

I am not an atheist. But, atheists have been the vanguard against the onslaught of creationism. For about the last 1,000 years that was the only understanding of our origins. Today we have new sciences, Paleontology for one example. Modern sciences can decipher the evidence left by events of our planet forming and life evolving.

We were all AMH then and often many of today choose to make something up and try to convince others it is true. Rather than saying I don’t know.

An interesting read. A lot goes into how a “modern educated person” could take the Bible literally. My mom told me God is real. My mom is the sweetest, most wonderful lady who ever lived and she would NOT lie to me. As a child this was absolute. Acceptance of the things she said as being reality were long set in my head before I ever had the mental capacity for critical thought or understanding the difference between “lying” and “being mistaken”.

And if you haven’t noticed, there is a real effort by Christianity to influence modern education, especially in middle and high school. And it’s not just about sneaking creationism back in. Hell, it’s not even about religious concepts at all, necessarily. My children never learned in school that there were ever nuclear bombs dropped in the world. Why? Because America dropped them, nuclear bombs are bad and we can’t teach children that America has ever done anything bad. It’s called “American exceptionalism” and, while not inherently religious, it is the basis on which to build a religious foundation. It dovetails nicely with the concept that America, which is an exceptional nation, is also a Christian nation, the first being caused by the second. And when we start to lose that Christian foundation, then we start to lose our exceptionalism. At that point we need to do something to “make America great again”. Religious influence has crept into politics through the Republican party. Republicans need evangelicals to survive as a party, evangelicals want their waning and undeserved power back.

But I do think it’s a little presumptuous to say “We were all AMH”. Even more so to go on to say that others “chose to make something up”, insinuating all beliefs except AMH are just made up. That’s what EVERYONE with a belief believes; that all beliefs but theirs are just made up. And I don’t think literally everyone who started a religion made a conscious choice to “make something up”. I’m certain at least some religious founders were completely sincere in their beliefs. And I can’t say with any certainty what people 10,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago, 200,000 years ago or earlier believed. But I would lay money on the fact that this belief did not remain completely unchanged from the beginning until it began being replaced. All beliefs evolve over time. As circumstance changes, so does the belief. That’s why Old Testament God was an old, angry, vengeful God who went around smiting everyone and New Testament God was a young, chill, forgiving God who went around healing and forgiving people.

Thank you for the passion in your post. Your mom reminds me of my mom. Paleontology and other contemporary sciences were not available to their learning experiences. To say we are all AMH is not presumptuous at all. Simply look up H, sapiens anatomically modern humans (AMH).

To be honest, I don’t want to. I have no real interest in the subject, just the conversation. I don’t mean to be rude or anything, but I do want to be honest.

And on that note (the honesty one) I was conflating AMH with animism. I often confuse things that start with the same letter. I was taking that acronym as being the same as the religious belief, so what I said (I don’t remember precisely now and am too pressed for time to read it) was probably nonsense.

I’m confused. AMH sounds so, I don’t know cliquish, cult like even.

Oh! You mean Anatomically Modern Humans , why didn’t you say so. Okay got it.

I am a member of the human species H. sapiens Anatomically Modern Human AMH.
I guess as in homo sapiens, oops homo sapiens sapiens.

Okay and if I stand under an apple tree and I get hit on the head with an apple, what does that mean?

Yeah, I’m trying hard to be cute here before I run off. Hal, You spent a bunch of time on this, but what’s the point you are trying to make? It reminds me of the sports announcer breathlessly telling us that the team that scores the most points will win.

 
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Hi Citizenschallange. We had a few discussions years ago (think I was using AMH) as my username then. You can use Homo sapiens sapiens but that is a technical reference not used with Homo sapiens anatomically modern humans (AMH) which comes later. these 2 pics may help make my point.

Our belief system then was Animism, the most ancient religion. Although there is some controversy regarding the derivation of the word “religion” – most people agree that it is from the Latin religare (to bind strongly. So Animism is like other religions in that it involves being strongly bound, but it differs in that its binding is to the Universe rather than to a particular deity.

Animism is basically a belief that every part of the world is suffused with spirit and is therefore sacred.

It stands apart from most contemporary religions in which only certain things, like a particular text, such as a bible, or building, like a church, mosque, or synagogue, is sacred, and the rest of the world is regarded as profane.

I think that might be why I’m a little confused here. The text does kind of go out of the way to make “modern human” into something mysterious with its own acronym. That and this week (really 2 or 3) has been a bit of a whopper for me. A lot going on at work right now, at home the week or two before.

Based on the evolution tree, it seems possible for homo sapiens to evolve on to something else.

Come on guys, you all know we are here because of a group of horny ancient astronauts.

Sree something we do know right now is it might not be an evolutionary step for our AMH species as we are the last extant species you see on the right side of the tree with all previous Homo species being extinct. More members of our species must start behaving in a way to contribute to the success of the species not the church. Because we are so smart we believe saving the church is more important than saving the species. Other species are so dumb they did not build a Church to save, they only know to contribute to the success of their species.

In my opinion it’s important for activist humanists and secularists to be knowledgeable about the trends in American religion since these account for much of the current polarization in our society. To begin with, you need to distinguish the different aspects of religion: belief, belonging, and behavior. The data shows membership in religious organizations has declined more than belief in the supernatural. This is because we lived a supernatural life for 200.000 years then interspersed our supernatural life with Church life for the last 2000 years.

We have to remember that religion is a familial and social activity. Nobody wants to upset their relatives more than is necessary, especially elderly folk who might include you in their will. So, a lot of nones tag along to religious events to show solidarity and keep the peace. Nevertheless, there is a clear generational erosion in organized religion, particularly as tales of clergy scandals, moral corruption, and their politicization have alienated many adherents. Fewer people among the younger generation claim a religious identification and fewer children today are receiving religious education and socialization.

But this doesn’t mean we should indulge in triumphalism. The move into the “none” category has largely been a spontaneous and leaderless development. This mass exit from religion is a great opportunity for organizations in the secular movement, but the continuation of the current trajectory and its permanence is not assured. My goal here is to provide people information from modern sciences that may have come into existence after their educational experience as a student.

Bob. We may find you were right in the distant future.

Hi Hal, Punctuated equilibrium appeals to me more than any other idea, mostly because I assume it could be accomplished by mutation. Long ago I realized that if continual slow evolution was true, then we should see it in the fossil record. In other words, we shouldn’t see distinctly different creatures living for millennia but should see mostly transitional creatures. The fossil record just doesn’t show transitions.

When it comes to humans, I believe human technological civilization has been around for longer, probably much longer, than currently accepted. I think much history has been lost and much has been re-written to puff up the leadership at particular times. I think Egypt is a prime example of leaders erasing ancient history and claiming the good parts for themselves.

I think we have had more geologic upheaval during the time modern humans have been around than is taught. I suspect most of the flood stories have a basis in fact. I also suspect humans were on the west coast of S. America before the mountains rose and probably around the globe before the last ice age began. Speculation of course, but from tidbits seen here and there.

I agree we should be knowledgeable on the trends, however, here’s what I’ve found:

Religious people don’t want to be talked about like they are some “trend”. Even the ones who are actively debating theology will not say they are changing it, they will say they are getting it right and seeking god or source or ultimate truth or whatever.

Non-believers of all stripes don’t care. They lump all the “trends” in to one big bucket of stupid people who are still following the writings of goat herders. If I point out that it doesn’t make sense to tell a Protestant that they are stupid because they believe Jesus is in a cracker, because they don’t believe that, they will turn their anger on me and treat me like I’m the one thinks I can get theology right. I’m not doing theology though, I’m understanding the trends and being aware of who I’m addressing.

The non-believer prejudice stems from (I think) the way atheist leaders have presented human history as a long period of worshipping nature then it just stuck as a meme and became what we call religion today. According to that, we should just be able to shake it off and be done with it. The alternate theory that is gaining traction is that religion is a survival mechanism for group selection, part of our evolution. But that is multiple competing theories, so you don’t get nice easy answers from them.

Lausten, thank you for a thoughtful post. It required several past and present generations literally hundreds even thousands of years for us to be fully involved with religions. (after surviving hundreds of thousands of years with no religion sans animism) I believe it will take hundreds of years for our species to recover from the damage Christianity has caused in their quest for gifts of money and personal favors.

Evidence based assessment is that the secular movement needs to consolidate and build upon contemporary, fortuitous trends. Relying on the courts and careerist politicians to help deliver a social and political agenda may not guarantee success. Instead, humanists and secularists need to copy the successful organizational strategy of the religious right. The movement has to offer a clear, positive, alternative narrative based on a sustained educational program aimed at mobilizing a mass public. Permanent success necessitates creating a social movement with strong institutions having adequate financial resources. Without those solid foundations, the much-heralded rise of the nones could be an ephemeral phenomenon.

About trends there is one called the nones or religious nones. Americans claiming "no religion”, sometimes referred to as “nones” because of how they answer the question “what is your religious tradition?”, now represent about 23.1 percent of the population, up from 21.6 percent in 2016. The trend “nones” have been noticeably increasing for the last several years. In America, the number of brand-name-church failures account for thousands of people dismissed and congregations disbanded daily . There are hundreds of theology departments and departments of religion at the country’s institutions of higher learning and seminaries that have trained the country’s 300,000 active clergy are also looking for new jobs. While the number of Christian nones is increasing they still remain an invisible minority distributed among democrats, republicans, independents, the least educated, the most educated, the poor, the rich, every racial and ethnic group, every geographic region in the U.S.

Church failures (Of the 250,000 Protestant churches in America, 200,000 are either stagnant (with no growth) or declining. There are less than half of the number of churches today as only 100 years ago. 3,500 people leave the church every single day. Since 1950, there are 1/3rd fewer churches in the U.S. these numbers are only one factor contributing to the rolling total number of the “nones”.

The days are gone when people felt it was culturally, economically, or politically advantageous to be part of a Christian church, even if they weren’t true believers in Christ. Atheists and other skeptics have been in existence as long as the religion.

The world is becoming more secular. France will have a majority secular population soon. So will the Netherlands and New Zealand. The United Kingdom and Australia will soon lose Christian majorities and finally America’s obscene Christian regions are losing their stranglehold.

An increasing percent of the American population are understanding the stories created within the Biblical era were created for the people of the Biblical era. The genre of storytelling during the Biblical era often involved imaginative supernatural characters and events interlaced in the story. The story spread by tribal oral tradition.

Supernatural was not a word during the Biblical era it was a way of life. It will require hundreds of years for humans with the stories from the Biblical era ingrained in their human soul to expire to get back to the business of helping our species success into the future.

The term “None” has come to describe atheists, agnostics, and even those who believe in God without subscribing to a particular religious faith. It’s one of those words we would never use to describe ourselves, but researchers and media types frequently use it to describe us.

Barry Kosmin, the man who coined the term “nones” is the founding director of the Institute for the Study of Secularism in Society and a professor at Trinity College, Kosmin had been helping to conduct the American Religious Identification Survey for nearly three decades. Once they’d evaluated data from the 1990s, Kosmin and his team were determined to name a new category. Nonreligious” was a possibility. So was “non-faith” and “non-affiliated, but Kosmin rejected all of these. The “non” part bothered him. “Non-affiliated” would be like calling people “non-white,” he said. “We didn’t want to suggest that ‘affiliated’ was the norm, and every one else was an ‘other nomenclature,” he added, “is quite important in these things.”

So Kosmin began calling this group the “nones,” a shortened version for “none of the above” — which is what people often said when asked to name their religion. He never thought the term would stick. “It began as a joke,” he said, “but now, like many of these things, it has taken on its own life.” Much like the “God Particle,” the accepted meaning of the term has significantly warped from its intended meaning, and it looks like we’re stuck with it for now.

That is how and why we came up with the unusual but now accepted name “nones” for what religionists used to call the “unchurched”? In most religion research prior to the ARIS series, the usual practice was to use questionnaires with a list of religious groups. The form provided a list of religious groups to choose from, and at the bottom was a category for the benighted folk labeled “None of the above.” We did away with the list and instead offered an open-ended question: “What is your religion, if any?” Then we classified all those who didn’t provide a religious identification or who provided a nontheist response as “nones.” This provided amusement because of its satirical association with Catholic sisters. (Nones also had a possible variant pronunciation, an allusion to Monty Python’s Spamalot via Shakespeare: “Hey, Nonny, Nonny!”)

In my opinion it’s important for activist humanists and secularists to be knowledgeable about the trends in American religion since these account for much of the current polarization in our society. To begin with, you need to distinguish the different aspects of religion: belief, belonging, and behavior. The data shows membership in religious organizations has declined more than belief in the supernatural. This is expected from our 200,000 years of living the supernatural and 2,000 years of Christian experience.

The move into the “none” category has largely been a spontaneous and leaderless development. This mass exit from religion is a great opportunity for organizations in the secular movement, but the continuation of the current trajectory and its permanence is not assured. My goal here is to provide an appreciation of the forces at play. (human evolution and creationism of everything all at once). The losses suffered by organized religion have occurred largely because of the defection of its nominal and liberal elements.

Church denominations that have suffered the largest losses in members are the more liberal, moderate groups, particularly once socially dominant brand name religions mainline Protestants, the Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and American Baptists. In fact, the trend today is for religious groups not to publicly disparage each other’s differing revelatory truths. So, paradoxically, many of the bitter battles of today’s culture war tend to be internal within each faith or denomination. Reformers and liberals versus conservatives and fundamentalists. The focus of these conflicts is usually about control and policy. Since many groups have lost their liberals to the nones the ironic result is that the majority of churches and denominations have become more traditional and conservative.

For example, recently the United Methodist Church has become the first mainline denomination to reject LGBTQ clergy and gay marriage. The UMC is a global church now dominated by a coalition of white American conservatives and Africans, unafraid to voice strong homophobic and misogynistic opinions. The religious and ideological opponents of humanism are not confined to white American evangelicals. Islam poses similar challenges to progressives who wish to valorize multiculturalism, indigenous cultures, and people of color. The religious right is dominant globally and across religions and cultures in the Middle East, Africa, and India, and religious intolerance and fundamentalism are growing even among the Buddhists of Burma and Sri Lanka.

However, in the US, paradoxically, there is now greater efforts by Christians of different church traditions to develop closer relationships and better understandings. The term is also often used to refer to efforts towards the visible and organic unity of different Christian denominations in some form. among the religious right than ever before. Mormons, Catholics, Evangelical Protestants, and Orthodox Jews no longer dispute their various truths about salvation but instead willingly cooperate on conservative political and public policy issues. For example, American evangelicals who in the 1960s feared the Catholicism of President John F. Kennedy nowadays enthusiastically endorse Catholic justices for the Supreme Court.

One feature of the religious right that is often ignored by humanists is their investment in formal and informal education. They’re not just educating and indoctrinating their young in so-called Christian, Catholic parochial, and Jewish day schools. They’ve also funded universities, law schools, think tanks, and cable television channels. They’ve likewise invested big time in educating adult members in their theology, what I would categorize as their ideology. As a result, their people are well versed in their sacred literature. This is not just a Sunday activity—Wednesday night is church night in much of the American South. The result is that the followers of the religious right are not only actively committed to their cause but also generous, as demonstrated by their churches’ fundraising success, often through tithing.

I bring this to your attention because of the contrast with the situation of contemporary American humanism and secularism. Unfortunately, secularists haven’t invested in formal or informal education to any extent. The lack of a comprehensive educational network is a disadvantage for secularists in the battle of ideas. There is little hope of missionizing the vast potential population of nones. One cannot rely on the public school system and the universities to guide them towards an appreciation of the secular Enlightenment. The reality is that the Texas School Board has much more influence than the American Humanist Association on the curricula of the nation’s public schools.

The information gap between religious and secular organizations is vast. The religious have invested heavily in market research on their adherents, not only through their own religious bodies but also with the aid of sympathetic wealthy partners again, by way of contrast in the secular movement has made minimal investment in market research.

The reason, of course, for the weaknesses I’ve highlighted in secular and humanist movements lack resources and therefore institutional infrastructure. Brand name religious affiliates is a high proportion of its potential constituency (over 100 million Americans are paid-up members of religious congregations), all the secular and humanist organizations combined currently have little more than 100,000 members out of the national population of around fifty million nones. The funding resources and political clout of the two ideologies reflect these membership statistics more than they do those provided by social surveys of religious identification. The religious organizations have the advantage of millions of donors motivated by the powerful eternal reward-punishment myth, an idea with which humanists cannot compete.

Permanent success necessitates creating a social movement with strong institutions having adequate financial resources. Without those solid foundations, the much-heralded rise of the nones could be an ephemeral phenomenon. Although the secular trend in society seems hopeful in terms of raw statistics, severe challenges face those organizations that would hope to benefit from the trend of disaffiliation from religion.

We should be aware of overconfidence and wishful thinking of pundits. One issue of concern is the emergence of the fashionable “spiritual but not religious” (SBNR) identity. In a 2017 Pew survey on attitudes towards spirituality and religion across fifteen Western countries, 64 percent of SBNRs said even though they didn’t believe in God as described in the Bible, they believed in a higher power. This outlook tends to develop into a search for practices that help the individual achieve a sense of union with the transcendent. It’s not surprising, then, that yoga, meditation, crystal healing, horoscopes, psychics, and sundry New Age beliefs have been gaining in popularity, particularly among the millennial generation. The media tends to encourage this fascination with unreason, the weird, and “woo.” And some neuroscientists now suggest that humans have a built-in need for trancelike emotional states that have been the stock-in-trade of organized religion for thousands of years.

To be a real force in American society, the secular movement needs to create mechanisms to encourage a positive attachment to humanism. Going forward it cannot just rely on the public’s negative sentiment about religion or anti-clericalism. There is a need to overcome intellectual anomie and get the nones to understand and appreciate the cultural inheritance of humanism and freethought and inspire a positive secular loyalty. Lack of exposure to the intellectual and historical origins of humanism and secularism to thinkers such as Lucretius, Francis Bacon, Voltaire, Bertrand Russell, Daniel Dennett, and so on—produces what Marxists would define as a lumpen quality to the fast-growing none population. It is a population that lacks self-awareness and solidarity. Though people are under no obligation to be logical or consistent in their attitudes and opinions, we can hope that exposure to reason and science can assist critical thinking. Our research findings show that considerable numbers of nones accept the science of climate change but not vaccination. They believe in evolution and natural selection but also in the power of crystals and homeopathy.

History teaches us that social trends aren’t linear and reason isn’t a force of nature that inevitably overcomes superstition. For example, Thomas Jefferson expected that Unitarianism would become the prevalent stream in American religion. If, as I believe, we have a mass of the populace who believe in nothing, then the danger is they will fall for anything unless they’re educated in humanist values and ethics. This is especially important in a time of historic confusion.

Our greatest need is to create an aware homo secularis, with a rigorously rationalistic and atheistic point of view and a commitment to church-state separation. We need to produce individuals and leaders with a broad and deep sense of humanist politics and culture, especially of humanism’s achievements in the world—not just in Western culture and history. The hurdles in forming a new mass identity for the humanist and secular movement are formidable at present because of its lack of embedding in social networks. Social trends could be reversed if we fail to educate the indifferent masses of nones, the millions who have lost religion but have found no replacement belief or value system. Unless we create a new world of meaning for them, we could face an analogous situation to that described by Rebecca West in 1930s in Europe the allure of fascism “to the mindless, traditionless, possessionless.”

At this moment it’s crucial for us to remember that the humanist movement is based on optimism about the human condition and the idea of progress. Obscurantism, anti-intellectualism, fearmongering, and spreading doom and gloom are bad and dangerous church ideas. Those ideas make people anxious with apocalyptic prophecies about acknowledged problems such as radiation, GMOs, and climate change makes people more likely to turn to individuals and groups offering certainty and external supernatural assistance. We have to valorize the collective intelligence, wisdom, and knowledge of the human species and the value of advances in science and technology. Both secular and scientific values were entrenched within the Enlightenment project of emancipating humanity and actualizing the highest human potentials through diffusion of knowledge. These goals, in turn, became linked to the quest for liberty, freedom of thought, and popular sovereignty, and thus democracy. The triadic relationship of humanist values, scientific literacy, and social and economic progress must remain the “worldly” focus of our struggle today.

Humanists have a duty to counter the current powerful cultural narrative of negativism and pessimism, which maintains that for decades now the world has been in a state of escalating crisis, decline, and suffering. That vision, along with original sin, is the stock-in-trade of religious fundamentalism and messianic thought.

In fact, as Steven Pinker (Enlightenment Now) and Michael Shermer (Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Search for the Afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia) have explained in their recent books, we live in good times. The present might not be perfect, but the good old days were dreadful. Most of you reading this live much more pleasant and longer lives than your ancestors thanks to the innovations brought about by the scientific and medical advances and the political and social revolutions of the past three centuries.
<p style=“text-align: left;”>I hope I maintained context integrity in the portions of this post that are excerpts from my not yet published blog containing an excerpt from the November / December issue of the 2019 Humanist</p>

I accept the best definition of religion is that our philosophy for living our life, our approach to living our life, is our religion.

<p style=“text-align: left;”>Bob,succinct and well put.</p>

Hey Lausten what are you talking about non religious prejudice. I am non religious with a question: how can there be prejudice about something that does not exist outside the religious writings.

@lausten I love your reasoning comments and replies. But, do you ever consider recusing yourself based on your Catholic training from certain threads?