If you see KeeperRL come up anywhere in my AI interactions it is from disclosing to the AI that I am a modder on a computer game. Probably a game you are not at all interested in, or rather indifferent to.
Thanks
Iām reaching out in the spirit of fair play, humour, and goodwill - and with a sincere respect for the power of language, ideas, and community.
Recently, Iāve begun experimenting with something I call memetic ethics - an approach to communication that prioritizes clarity, emotional resonance, ethical responsibility, and the long-term health of public discourse. As a test, I applied this framework to a contentious modern text: Richard Dawkinsā The God Delusion. Not to attack faith, but to explore how even critiques of belief can be reframed in a tone that aims for honesty without hostility, sharpness without cruelty.
The result was an essay not promoting nihilism or mockery, but expressing a secular worldview with the same seriousness and emotional depth often reserved for sacred texts. The goal wasnāt to win a debate, but to model how deep convictions can be expressed with beauty, without weaponizing them against others.
Why share this with you?
Because if we are indeed in a time where worldviews clash - and if, heaven forbid, those clashes escalate into open rhetorical or cultural āwarfareā - then it is only fair that your community be equipped with a comparable weapon: a way to express your own faith-based code of honour, grounded not just in doctrine, but in love, reason, and ethical strength.
Consider this a gesture of sportsmanship. A sparring glove offered before the match. Not to convert, nor to concede - but to signal that mutual understanding is still on the table, even when agreement is not.
Here is the piece, generated with the help of ChatGPT, which attempted to interpret and apply the principles of what-ever-it-thinks is memetic ethics to the core ideas of The God Delusion. It is not an attack, nor a provocation. Rather, itās a kind of creative truce offering - a signal that even in disagreement, we can strive to do better than caricature or contempt.
I hope this gesture is well received. Iād be honoured to read or hear any response you may have - especially if you choose to respond in kind, with your own code of honour or memetically ethical articulation of Christian conviction.
Warm regards
There is no hate in this. Only the quiet bravery of saying: we donāt need them anymore. Not the gods, not the myths, not the sky-parents. They walked with us once, when lightning was a spirit and death was an unsolvable riddle. We carved their names into stone and story because we needed answers. We were children then. And thatās okay.
But we are not children now.
We have telescopes that read the edge of time. Equations that mirror the bones of the cosmos. Machines that learn. Medicine that rewrites fate. Minds that hold compassion like fire. We have each other. And that is enough.
The idea of a divine mind behind everything feels, at first, like an answer. But it answers nothing. It simply moves the question back one layer - hiding it behind a face, a name, a throne. āBecause God said soā is not a foundation. Itās a stop sign. Weāve learned to keep going. What once required a god - lightning, disease, life, death, morality- now unfolds in patterns we can study, test, and understand. No mysteries have ever been solved by invoking the supernatural. They are solved when we dare to ask without permission.
Thereās a whisper that without gods, we would have no goodness. But morality was never handed down. It grew up with us - in the spaces between fear and empathy, in the hard lessons of cooperation and harm. We know how to be kind without threat. We know cruelty when we see it, even when it wears robes and quotes verses. What makes an act right is not who commands it, but whether it heals, helps, protects, liberates. A god who threatens hell for doubt is not moral. A person who helps another, for no reward, is. The golden rule existed before commandments. It will outlive them.
To believe without evidence has been sold as a virtue. But it is not. It is permission to stop thinking. And thinking - difficult, dangerous, liberating thinking - is how we grow. Faith asks you to kneel. Reason asks you to stand. One is obedience. The other is responsibility. And responsibility is the price of freedom. Not just the freedom to believe - but the freedom to build a world where belief is no longer used as a weapon, a wedge, a wall.
Without gods, the universe does not become cold or meaningless. It becomes real. Look up. Those stars are not decorations. They are burning worlds, each obeying laws no mind invented, no prophet imagined. Look in. Your thoughts are electrochemical starlight - proof that matter, given time, becomes self-aware and begins to care. What could be more sacred than that?
We are not here to serve. We are here to understand. To cherish. To help. To laugh and love and leave something better than we found it. Thatās enough. Thatās more than enough.
We donāt tear down temples to destroy meaning. We let them fall gently - because we have better blueprints now. Not etched in stone, but written in action. In justice. In joy. In shared responsibility for the fragile miracle of this one brief life.
Letting go of gods is not arrogance. It is gratitude: for reality. For knowledge. For the chance to love this world as it is - not as a test, not as a prelude, but as a home.
The age of gods was long.
The age of us has just begun.
Hello, My name is David I live in Clarksville Tn. are there any others who live in the Nashville area?
Hi Carolyn, this is an interesting one. What I would suggest is you first ask him what he thinks the definition of the 2 words are. For example does he know the dictionary term For āQuantumā or are they just using a scientific word as substitute word for āSpiritualā to make it sound more legit. Also the idea of āHealingā I find a funny one. Your body is in a constant state of decay, your body literally burns in oxygen, every time a cell divides the DNA inside is damaged and can never be āHealedā All we can really do is carry out running repairs on a machine thatās getting less and less efficient over time. Itās actually more about preserving your body than healing. It all has to come down to evidence, what has Quantum Healing ever healed? Medical science has a huge back catalogue of achievements to draw upon. Just randomly come out with medical conditions that medical science has already achieved. After a while hopefully heāll come to his senses.
āSmall Pox? Completed it mate.ā
And try and point out that no matter how much training you can have in Quantum Healing youāll always be useless in a real life medical emergency. A one day first aid course would make him more useful to the world and other people an indulging in a fantastical story that sounds good. Also basic male and female social dynamics also still apply.
āGonorrhea? Completed it mate.ā
I must have asked this question about 4 years ago! I dumped the guy in question 2 years back. A nice person but a bit of an idiot. So thanks for your reply. Quantum healers are around. Seems like a scam appropriating scientific terminology. But they believe in themselves and the placebo effect keeps them in business. This one charged $400/hour and my friend was taken by her. Iām not sure where this forum is located, but it sounds like something I would have asked. Your comments are appreciated.
Thank you. Very well said.
Hello!
Iām a recent ex-Christian, took me several years to work through the deconversion and went through several steps of frustration, anger, sadness, etc. Finally got to a point where Iām on solid ground again.
I wonāt go through my entire story - maybe sometime. But there is a reason why Iām seeking out communities/forums - I made a personal tool (so hopefully this wonāt be marked as promotional because Iām not trying to sell anything!). This tool could be compared to GotQuestions or AiG and I wouldāve loved to have something like it during my deconversion.
Below is a screenshot of the home page that describes the features and how it can be used. Iām looking for others that might want to help and collaborate.
Again - not selling anything!
If anyone does want to try out the beta proof-of-concept then DM me for the link, I canāt release the link to everyone because Iām using my own money for hosting and running it.
Well, I really feel rather silly here.
Why? Because Iāve been a subscriber to the magazine for fifty years. I first subscribed when it was still called the Zetetic! But a few years after that, I got hired by CompuServe (anyone here remember CompuServe?). And I ran forum much like this one. Since 1981. I did that for decades.
But I never thought to check out the forums here. Now, isnāt that silly?
Hi, Iāve been away for a while but Iām back. Iām an independent researcher interested in the philosophy of science and the limits of the current materialist paradigm. Happy to be here for some deep discussions.
The auto protection had you on hold, because it looked like you copied and pasted. Donāt worry about it. Glad to have you.
Hi everyone! 
Iām excited to join this forum and connect with curious minds. I recently came across Nirvana Healing, which focuses on Reiki and energy-based practices for relaxation and well-being. Iām interested in mindfulness and exploring different perspectivesālooking forward to learning and engaging with you all!
Hi, my name is Keith and I am new to this forum. I hope I am doing this right. I am wondering if any creationists have jumped on the word āselectionā in the term ānatural selectionā to indicate a āselectorā (grand designer)? Iām not only an atheist but also an antitheist because of the harm religions have caused. Opinions please.
Welcome Keith.
I didnāt think Iāve heard that stated exactly like that, but it could be out there