### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/1 "2023-08-15T00:19:54Z")
Mr. trump thinks the Emoluments Clause is phony (well at least it doesn’t apply to him, he’s so very _speecial_.)
> **[Video: Trump Calls Emoluments Clause ‘Phony’](https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000006780161/trump-emoluments-clause.html)**
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> In his latest defense of attempting to host the Group of 7 summit at one of his properties, President Trump disparaged the emoluments clause of the Constitution that prohibits a president from illegally profiting from his business while in office.
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> **[Profiting off the Presidency: Trump’s Violations of the Emoluments Clauses | ACS](https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/profiting-off-the-presidency-trumps-violations-of-the-emoluments-clauses/)**
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> The Framers of the Constitution were acutely aware of the dangers presented by foreign influence on the president.
> **[Justices vacate rulings on Trump and emoluments - SCOTUSblog](https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/justices-vacate-rulings-on-trump-and-emoluments/)**
>
> The Supreme Court on Monday morning released orders from the justices’ private conference on Friday, Jan. 22. The justices once again did not act on several high-profile petitions for review, including the challenge to Nevada’s limits on religious...
**[Also see Brennan Center article](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/supreme-court-ducks-opportunity-trump-emoluments-cases)**
> **[Opinion | We Sued Trump for Emoluments Violations. That Fight’s Just Getting...](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/02/08/donald-trump-emoluments-presidential-corruption-466484)**
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> Congress needs to take the baton now to prevent presidential corruption. Here’s how.
> Opinion by KARL RACINE, BRIAN FROSH and NORMAN EISEN
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> 02/08/2021
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> _Karl Racine is the attorney general for the District of Columbia._
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> _Brian Frosh is the attorney general for Maryland._
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> _Mr. Eisen is their former co-counsel in the emoluments litigation and served as President Obama’s ethics czar. He now serves as outside counsel for the nonpartisan [Voter Protection Program](https://voterprotectionprogram.org/)._
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> Three and a half years ago, we took President Donald Trump to court over unconstitutional payments he received from foreign and domestic governments through his hotel in downtown D.C. while serving as president.
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> Recently, the Supreme Court declared that our lawsuit and Trump’s appeal of it were moot given that President Joe Biden had taken office. Trump’s departure from the White House may have effectively terminated the case against him,
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> but we still secured a significant victory: Judge Peter J. Messitte of the Maryland federal district court ruled in 2018, the year after we filed suit, that the Constitution forbids the president from receiving anything of value from a foreign or domestic government.
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> His decision was the first time a court ruled that the Constitution broadly prohibits such transactions, rejecting Trump’s much narrower interpretation that the clause prohibited only transactions involving personal services.
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> Under this interpretation, Trump would not be able to accept payment if he served as a personal driver to Saudi Arabia’s King Mohammed Bin Salman while in office, but the president’s hotels and businesses would be able to accept millions of dollars in cash from the Saudi leader.)
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> As a result of Judge Messitte’s decision, the law we made along the way—still in force—set a standard by which all future presidents will be judged. Now Congress must build upon that to broadly preclude future presidential conflicts and self-dealing. …
Seems like old history doesn’t it?
Thing is there’s a rumor going around that Mr.trump’s presidential profiteering will be coming front and center and into the spotlight, in the near future.
> **[Text P. The Parchment Signed by the Delegates to the Philadelphia Convention – Variorum Constitution](https://usconst.co/p/#a1s9c8)**
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> “No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, **without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever,** from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”
> Emolument: [_emolument_](https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/emolument)
> **:** the returns arising from office or employment usually in the form of compensation or perquisites, (_or bribes, for that matter_)
So I figured a little background wouldn’t hurt for future reference.
We shall see.
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/2 "2024-04-17T23:36:27Z")
Here’s an interesting look at the “Pro” American MAGA trumpster family in action, and what they really think about “pro-American” - update April 2024
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn4v9QHxiIc)
> Apr 17, 2024
>
> Trump and his foreign policy IS UP FOR SALE through his son in law Jared Kushner. In one of the biggest fraud schemes we have scene, kushner has made $40 million a year from Gulf Arab States and their billions of investments in him, while 0 of those dollars are going into American businesses or to help everyday Americans. Americans United will keep fighting for freedom without favor - equality without exception. Keep up with this issue at [Https://au.org/legalaf](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXQzS1R4dG9hMkFURE5RSm1UNU9rMktvY3NHd3xBQ3Jtc0tsazJmdmVJbGZHV0Q0UU9sVkh0SFdYNWxEeHBNWlFxTW1KTVJmY1JVX1M0RkR4NExNMGVTZEhvV0lKTkY0Tmk5NlFHS05pOUFKbUhNNUdvNVBwbW5yZXZHSFFLVGw1Qk5CZkdVQi1oczRCX3Z2aXZaYw&q=Https%3A%2F%2Fau.org%2Flegalaf&v=sn4v9QHxiIc)
> **[Kushner Developing Deals Overseas Even as His Father-in-Law Runs for President](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/15/us/politics/jared-kushner-pursuing-development-deals-in-albania-and-serbia.html)**
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> Donald Trump’s son-in-law, who was also a senior White House official, said he was close to finalizing real estate projects in Albania and Serbia.
[https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/jared-kushner-family-trump-holocaust-225210](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/jared-kushner-family-trump-holocaust-225210)
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### Author:  [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/3 "2024-04-18T04:43:29Z")
Well that didn’t last long (Assange)
>
also
> **[US Rejects Australia's Call To End Assange Case](https://thedissenter.org/us-government-rejects-australias-call-to-end-assange-case/)**
>
> Rather than drop the charges or seek a plea deal, the U.S. government will keep fighting to put the WikiLeaks founder on trial.
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/4 "2024-04-19T00:23:39Z")
Well I’m not an Assange’s fan, he caught the tiger’s tail, he knew what he was doing.
What is it they say, do the crime, pay the crime.
There are many, many worse injustices out there.
And I’m impotent to do anything about any of them,
Dadada, so what do you want me to do about it?
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### Author:  [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/5 "2024-04-19T05:39:21Z")
What american crime do you say this Australian has committed??
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/6 "2024-04-19T13:17:40Z")
> [@dadada](#):
>
> What american crime do you say this Australian has committed??
> **[Indictment and arrest of Julian Assange](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Julian_Assange)**
>
> In 2012, while on bail, Julian Assange was granted political asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he sought to avoid extradition to Sweden, and what his supporters said was the possibility of subsequent extradition to the US. On 11 April 2019, Ecuador revoked his asylum, he was arrested for failing to appear in court, and carried out of the Embassy by members of the London Metropolitan Police. Following his arrest, the US revealed a previously sealed 2018 US indictment in wh
> **[WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Charged in 18-Count Superseding Indictment](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-18-count-superseding-indictment)**
>
> A federal grand jury returned an 18-count superseding indictment today charging Julian P. Assange, 47, the founder of WikiLeaks, with offenses that relate to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the...
> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/ecuador-response-assange-wikileaks/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/ecuador-response-assange-wikileaks/index.html)
> Atlanta CNN — July 16, 2019
> Former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa said Tuesday his country was aware that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was interfering in the 2016 US presidential election from the safety of Ecuador’s embassy in London, where he [lived under political asylum](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/uk/julian-assange-how-we-got-here-gbr-intl/index.html) until this year.
>
> “We did notice that he was interfering in the elections and we do not allow that because we have principles, very clear values, as we would not like anyone to interfere in our elections,” he said. “We are not going to allow that to happen with a foreign country and friend like the US.”
>
> Correa granted asylum in 2012 to Assange, …
> **[https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/assange-embassy-exclusive-documents/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/assange-embassy-exclusive-documents/index.html)**
>
> # Exclusive: Security reports reveal how Assange turned an embassy into a command post for election meddling
>
> By [Marshall Cohen](https://www.cnn.com/profiles/marshall-cohen), Kay Guerrero and Arturo Torres, CNN - July 15, 2019
Is being Australian supposed to offer some immunity?
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,
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### Author:  [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/7 "2024-04-19T23:00:35Z")
It was an incredibly simple question that has yet to be answered. What is the American crime that you say this Australian has committed. Your own words
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/8 "2024-04-20T11:06:22Z")
> [@dadada](#):
>
> Your own words
Why would you make this demand? What are you trying to accomplish?
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### Author:  [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/9 "2024-04-20T12:05:02Z")
> [@dadada](#):
>
> It was an incredibly simple question that has yet to be answered. What is the American crime that you say this Australian has committed. Your own words
Hacking !!!
[[Julian Assange - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange)]
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### Author:  [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 9:28am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/10 "2024-04-21T09:28:33Z")
> [@morgankane01](#):
>
> Hacking !!!
>
> [[Julian Assange - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange)]
Some people read books and UN reports while others read Wikipedia
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/11 "2024-04-21T10:29:58Z")
> [@dadada](#):
>
> Some people read
Just look at all those references Wikipedia gives you. You could check so many facts
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### Author:  [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/12 "2024-04-21T21:59:04Z")
How glib. Whats the charge?
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/13 "2024-04-21T22:37:28Z")
> [@daniel4spain](#):
>
> Whats the charge?
Answered twice in this thread
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### Author:  [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/14 "2024-04-21T22:40:26Z")
> [@lausten](#):
>
> Answered twice in this thread
Quite the opposite. Channelling truth central on these pages.
I read this as what is the actual crime that you folks agree he has committed. Clue = it aint hacking
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/15 "2024-04-21T23:16:26Z")
> [@daniel4spain](#):
>
> I read this as what is the actual crime that you folks agree he has committed. Clue = it aint hacking
We don’t meet secretly and agree. How do you know what we think?
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### Author:  [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/16 "2024-04-21T23:23:14Z")
You have an interest in this. Its above you to spell out the alleged crime?
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/17 "2024-04-21T23:29:30Z")
It’s beneath me to attempt to satisfy your arbitrary standards
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### Author:  [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/18 "2024-04-21T23:31:28Z")
Its beyond you to tell us what you think . Youre just here to snarl
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/19 "2024-04-22T01:04:52Z")
I did tell you. No idea what you want
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### Author:  [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/will-the-emoluments-clause-ever-catch-up-to-mr-trump/10414/20 "2024-04-22T01:11:42Z")
You talked about wikipedia . Glip,
You have no idea what this about
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