Half a man? Oh my! If all men are only 1/2 a man, it’s no wonder women have to care for them most of their lives and if they out live the woman, it’s no wonder they go shortly after their wife. That explains it all. lol
God says he is A woman, Hen mother covering his chicklings which is Israel, A mother Bear, and A mother eagle. God uses hammers, arrows, lightning, and consuming to represent himself in the bible. And also God originally is not man or women he says he is consuming fire originally when created the universe but bear, hammer, arrows, thunder as his voice, coming as Jesus as A man, being A women who gave birth, and mother hen are things that represent him and his character for he is a mysterious God. And he only lets us know few things about all of him because he is powerful and his ways are mysterious.
And that is why we must believe in Him, Her, It?
Mystery is always a sign of truth. You can never disprove a mystery.
Isn’t that neat?
It’s just that it is so difficult to define a mystery and that is precisely what the OP asks.
I have defined … “what is God”
God is a figment of the imagination and that’s what makes it so mysterious.
I hope that clarifies my position.
Glad we got to point. When they play the mysterious card, game over
Are you asking in reference to the god that emerged on the radar screen a few thousand years ago and is credited for creating everything?
Yeah, I guess you could put it that way.
and yes, it’s the God in our heads that I’m referring to, since from my perspective it seems to me Gods grew out of our own human experience and evolving mind.
As a kid, I didn’t buy into the church experience. Not in terms of good or bad, it just wasn’t my cup of chowder. I think God is whom one conjures God to be, as you say. Perhaps a personal rendition of one of the thousands of people crucified as an ancient punishment.
I can’t personally make a connection to the God people pray to and the guy hanging on the wall of this church props storage area.
No matter, just remember to drop your dollars.
Another thread to update.
I feel like I’m about finished with the editing. I know not to say it’s done, but it feels right, like at the point where more tinkering could detract more than help.
As for God?
Who is “God,” but a creation of our unique complex human minds dealing with our day to days?
Where did God come from?
From within the human mind, from curiosity and wonder. From puzzling over observations, contemplating questions, seeking answers. From love and hunger and fears in the night along with glorying in the warming sunrise.
From contemplating the suddenly dead carcass of a loved one From buried memories of being coddled within mom’s loving protective bosom and mourning those who are gone.
From our need for someone truly personal, who’s always there, never dying, ready to listen to our constant chatter, ideas, complaints, fears, longings, wishes, all of it in complete confidence.
Think about it, our relationship with our God is the most intimate relationship of our lives and reflects our ego in every way. All of it, happening within our mind, or more descriptively, within our Mindscape.
W hat about the Biblical ‘Passion of Jesus’ and the promise of everlasting Salvation?
Look around your world and history, nothing is everlasting. Why should it be, time is change, why wish for the impossible? Besides bet you’d find it an unspeakable horror were you ever trapped within a “forever” that actually never ends.
There is only the heaven and hell we create for ourselves, or that people inflict upon others.
We don’t need a key to life after life, the sacred secret is that Jesus is the key to life after loss & failure. Jesus is a saint, a spiritual guide and a teacher who can help many through our own personal trials & tribulations right here on Earth.
The spiritual challenge is about facing our own failings and sins and achieving a willingness to accept blame where blame is due and then to burn on the cross of our own making in seeking redemption.
Going through those trials and tribulations with honesty in your heart - then one awakens with a reborn awareness that guides one to a healthier more constructive outlook within oneself and with life in general.
Humans are the product of our Earth - God is the product of our human mind.
That’s why our conceptions of God always wind up being driven by our own Egos, not by any outside force. Nothing wrong with that, if only we could bring ourselves to explicitly recognize as much.
For some people these realities are jarring and resented, but that doesn’t make it any less the reality humans exist within. For others, if these ideas resonate, take comfort, stay true to your heart and your gut instinct. Do your homework, you’ll get there.
As usual, Carrier goes on and on. But he starts out pointing to the religious thinking that got in the way of determining what sentience is (googles lamda chatbot). We have a great opportunity here to observe how humans see what they want to see.
I think you are right on track, but, has monotheism become an outside force like a virus woven into everything it is an omnipresence of God everywhere at the same time?
monotheism has been an influence on our DNA for all of the Ages.
That’s what that Abrahamic Mindset I often mention is all about.
For all of the Ages?
I’d guess past tens of thousands of years with the advent of culture, but before that I’ll bet something quite different held sway over the human mind.
Finally, I understand, that we are talking about the same thing. So very glad to call you a friend.
I would suggest that the question be: what context is actually worthy of the designation “God”?
Reality being that context for me. Reality indicating the undivided Whole. Undivided meaning non-relative infinitude.
I think you are absolutely right that something quite different held sway over the human mind a very long time ago. I investigated that question from a biological evolutionary perspective.
My conclusion was that the new modern brain of the human species had to take time to develop; it takes about five years for a human infant to go from 0-to 90% of adult brain development. The modern infant is also born with a brain that has a DNA memory of two hundred thousand years of events and it has become very adept at connecting the necessary synapses of the brain to initialize normal development.
In this example, A different held sway over the human mind was in the years our modern brain was developing.
This is the time period I give for a new modern human brain with no evolved DNA instructions and the DNA from the mother and father shows them extinct, about ten thousand years for the brain to make those synaptic connections enabling normal brain development and the ability to move to the second phase of development of the modern brain.
During these phases of brain development, we had very little understanding of what anything was and recorded events from our imagination. This is the human species in its infancy, recordings of the first DNA appear animistic. As our brain developed over tens of thousands of years we found how to reason. This I call moving from animism to humanism.
Only about 2,000 years ago religions started blowing Westword out of the Eastern sand.
I think the different sway you mention is the brain development time for the first generations of primates with the modern brain, unlike any other animal. While it was developing we foraged, reproduced, and kept track of our events in our DNA, a distinguishing characteristic from other animals
This part of my thinking is based on known information regarding human infant brain stages. This is one of the sites that I recommend for reference to known infant brain development Child Brain Development Timeline [Factors & Stages] – Cover Three
information.
The point I went on to make is that the idea of god is a human concept.
Why should a “wholeness” be contextual of “God”?
The wholeness started as a singularity and is still expanding. In context is God then an expanding singularity?
It doesn’t tell us anything about God, no?
What we do know about the undivided wholeness is that it is made up of sets of smaller parts and that sets are made up of smaller parts, until we reach elemental particles which were created after the initial inflationary epoch.
For me to have the term God any meaning at all it would have to be causal of something and if that is true then there should be evidence that specifically points to a single intelligent agency that might be identified as God.
For one, that would require a description of the properties of that intelligent agency, no?
Does that agency have a brain or some other form of conscious decision making mechanism other than relational mathematical determinism?
OTOH, if there is evidence of causality by a non-conscious causality, that would solve a host of unanswered questions by the assumed existence of a “motivated wholeness named God”.
One serious contender for a stochastic deterministic causal force is an inherent generic mathematical essence to the spacetime geometry that guides the self-organization and formation of the sets that make up the “wholeness”.
What is often overlooked is the term “potential” or “that which may become reality”.
IOW, potential is an inherent relational value that may become expressed when certain conditions exist that allow for mathematical permission to become explicated in reality.
This is a famous hypothesis proposed by David Bohm in his famous paper on “Wholeness and the Implicate Order” , where he outlines his theory of “enfolded” potential (Implicate Order) properties becoming “unfolded” (Explicate Order) in physical reality.
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Wholeness and the Implicate Order
Wholeness and the Implicate Order is a book by theoretical
physicist David Bohm. It was originally published in 1980 by
Routledge, Great Britain.
The book is considered a basic reference for Bohm’s concepts of
undivided wholeness and of implicate and explicate orders, as well
as of Bohm’s rheomode - an experimental language based on
verbs.
The book is cited, for example, by philosopher Steven M.
Rosen in his book The Self-evolving Cosmos,[1] by mathematician
and theologian Kevin J. Sharpe in his book David Bohm’s
World,[2][3] by theologian Joseph P. Farrell in Babylon’s
Banksters,[4] and by theologian John C. Polkinghorne in his book
One World.[5]
Because it feels good for some?
brmckay, excellent question, “who is God”, I copied some answers from a simple search on “who is God”. I think you may have conducted a similar Internet search as I did and found the results unsatisfying. The question you ask has existed for as long as the Abrahamic religions themselves of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Many of the people of that Their leaders Every person then and now are members of the evolving human species of the day, kinda the same as you and I are now in modern times.
Everything that each of us learns from birth to death is biologically encoded in our DNA.
To me, that means in your personal cognizance if you believe in a god you know who that god is. If you don’t believe in a god throw away the baggage of your DNA.
Search results
All-Powerful Creator of the universe
God is the All-Powerful Creator of the universe. The Lord is One in three divine persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is holy, loving, and perfect.
The God of the Bible
The God of the Bible is not merely one of a plethora of gods from which we may pick and choose to worship nor is He to be put on par with other supposed deities. He is the omnipotent Creator and Redeemer of mankind.
God the Creator
The Creator has revealed Himself in both science and history, and the two subjects are intertwined. It is just as wrong to leave God out of the study of bacteria and volcanoes as it is to leave Him out of the rise and fall of nations or the extinction of dinosaurs. God made everything and He sustains everything.
The Trinity
God the Father, in the power of God the Holy Spirit and through the agency of God the Son Jesus Christ, created everything that exists. The doctrine of the Trinity is not derived from pagan beliefs but was developed from the plain teaching of Scripture. God is one Being in three Persons.
Who Is God? Topics
Two dolphins meet in the ocean:
Dolphin 1: “I’ll bet god can swim infinitely fast and catch an infinite amount of fish”
Dolphin 2: “I’ll bet he can, let us flap our fins in prayer”
Two rabbits meet in a forest:
Rabbit 1: “I’ll bet god can jump all the way into the sky”
Rabbit 2: “I’ll bet he can, and create carrots out of the air. Let’s wiggle our tails in prayer”
Two humans meet in church:
Human 1: “I’ll bet god knows everything and can do anything”
Human 2: “I’ll bet He can, pass the tithe plate and clasp our hands in prayer”