So you’re on the side of China on these issues. I completely disagree with you, but at least I can respect your candor. My wife was born and raised in Hong Kong so I’ll take her opinion over the media or over anyone who had never stepped one foot in her country.
I hate your purist argument not so much for its content as much as what liberalism and conservatism have become. Hong Kong didn’t need to be a perfect Democracy, but what it had been given by the British was far superior to that of what China has given them. Brittan took a colony of China’s criminals and turned it into a (per capita) economic force of nature. Now China will take it all away as you can see the force of China will end the memorial held in Hong Kong each year of the atrocities of Tiananmen square. It’s easy to go on, but do you really care if I’m right?
“year of the atrocities of Tiananmen square.”
Amazing how the level of westerm business ventures and investments increased on orders of magnitude in China after Tiananmen. Not an issue.
Yeah, it almost seems as though all those heroes of the Repugnants and Dumbocrats both seemingly accepted this. Keep voting America into a two-party system, but never bitch to me as to why we only have a two-party system.
How can it be determined if you deserve something at the point you are born? I don’t see how it can be. You can show appreciation for those who gave you life and nurtured you to adulthood, but at birth, you inherit whatever your birthplace has. This is sometimes referred to as the “social contract”.
The problem is, when we start dissecting, the problem is with definitions, and you obfuscate further as we try to have the dialog. I’ve shown my altruism by being patient with you.
It’s not amazing at all. There is nothing called “Americans” that represents how all Americans think. You can simply open two news sources with different ideas about how to determine what’s true and get two different viewpoints, both of them representing millions of Americans. That’s what you get in a democracy with freedom of speech. What’s amazing is you, @DJTexas, how you berate people for not knowing things, while demonstrating your lack of awareness of things.
“You can simply open two news sources with different ideas about how to determine what’s true and get two different viewpoints, both of them representing millions of Americans”
It’s amazing how liberals can keep a straight face in regurgitating such thinking when anyone can go back and see for themselves on the record how many times anti war anti imperialism voices were given a chance to be heard in your so called diverse media over the last 20+ years.
Beautifully put by Chris Hedges
“ The defeat in Afghanistan has not forced a reckoning. The media coverage does not acknowledge the defeat, replacing it with the absurd idea that, by withdrawing, we defeated ourselves”
“ The defeat in Afghanistan has not forced a reckoning. The media coverage does not acknowledge the defeat, replacing it with the absurd idea that, by withdrawing, we defeated ourselves”
We were not defeated in Afghanistan. We got tired of trying of Nation Building. There was never any intent to defeat anyone but Bin Laden and terrorists in Afghanistan, who would harm the US. We never wanted to conquer Afghanistan by force. We were never at war with Afghanistan.
In the past we helped Afghanistan defeat the Soviet Union who did try to conquer and annex , as they tried to do to every country bordering the then ruling Soviet Union.
This is why the Taliban are helping us evacuate those who want to leave. They don’t want war, they just want us to leave.
“We were not defeated in Afghanistan.”
"In the past we helped Afghanistan defeat the Soviet Union who did try to conquer and annex "
See what I mean. Up there with the old “we only lost because we never went far enough…” chestnut and with “It’s not working only because we’re not getting our message across…”
See what I mean. Up there with the old “we only lost because we never went far enough…” chestnut and with “It’s not working only because we’re not getting our message across…”
Yes I see what you mean and as usual you are so wrong. We were never at war with Afghanistan. Why would we build schools and hospitals if we wanted to destroy their country? Our war with Iraq showed the world what we can do if we wage war with a country.
We can bomb Afghanistan into oblivion in a few days if we wanted to, but we were NEVER at war with Afghanistan. We were unwanted guests and we finally got the message that we were not wanted.
I don’t know what is so amazing to you? Is anything not amazing? When I said two news sources, I was suggesting one that is rated liberal bias and one that is rated conservative bias. If you want to claim that there are ultra liberal, extremely biased sources, go ahead. Obviously there are. I critique those too. I hate it when someone agrees with my values, but makes horrible arguments with bad logic. Are you saying there is no such thing as conservative biased news sources?
It’s not something I’m going to tally up. I would need a search engine specifically for news. It doesn’t change what I was responding to, that you generalized about all Americans.
“You can simply open two news sources with different ideas about how to determine what’s true and get two different viewpoints, both of them”
you must have a reason for saying this or can point to an example of this news media diversity. It seems from your response when it comes to war (which is what this thread is about) you acknowledge it doesn’t apply.
Why would I need to “point to” anything, when you have google and YouTube. Are you seriously suggesting that you couldn’t find two different viewpoints?
I explained my reason for saying it, it was in response to something you said.
This seems like 100% troll behavior. Would you like me to ban you now?