Excellent post, Write4U. Each of us has our own purposes in the discussion. Lois and TFS seem to think that they’re arguing for clarity, though they’ve both admitted that they’re put off by the association of the word “belief” with theism (which they call religion); and they don’t identify examples where people have used that word here without being clear. My purpose has been to get them to see that they’re reacting emotionally without thinking it through. While many people will see that as my being a pain in the ass, our movements have been and continue to be weighed down by these semantic turf wars. This makes no sense and is counterproductive to our collective aims.