# What is the highest, most fundamental principle?

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**Created:** [November 20, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-is-the-highest-most-fundamental-principle/10551 "2023-11-20T06:15:25Z")\
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@mriana

> [@Socialism, Christianism and humanism](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/socialism-christianism-and-humanism/10549/6):
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> There are some beautiful concepts in Christianity - love thy neighbor, for example that align well within the Humanist perspective.

One quote from Abnousse Shalmani:

> If spirituality takes power anywhere, it’s moral order, and then it’s arbitrariness. Because moral order is necessarily arbitrariness: to condemn people, to separate people.

From [“Abnousse Shalmani, journaliste, écrivaine, et réalisatrice| Les grands entretiens d’Yves Thréard #10” (LCP Assemblée nationale)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5PryD7BL3g)

Original: “Si la spiritualité prend le pouvoir où que ce soit, c’est l’ordre moral, et là c’est l’arbitraire. Parce que l’ordre moral c’est forcément l’arbitraire: pour condamner les gens, pour séparer les gens.”

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