# What happened to the Musk-trump team, when Tesla fails? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [March 28, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421 "2025-03-28T15:01:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/1 "2025-03-28T15:01:14Z")
I’ll admit schadenfreude is a pathetic emotion, but hey I’m just human and occasionally can’t help it. A super-sized monster as Musk has turned out to be, deserves all the universe dumps on him. While nothing that can possibly make up for the damage he’s inflicted - it’ll still be good to see him go down, along with that **[idiotic excuse of a worthless PU-truck](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=why+tesla+trucks+worst+pickup)** of his - looks like it might - the market place is God > **[Tesla’s Europe sales drop nearly 45% amid row over Musk’s Trump links](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/24/tesla-sales-eu-slump-elon-musks-donald-trump-byd)** > > US carmaker’s European market share falls as Chinese rival BYD overtakes it on global revenue, topping $100bn > **[Gravity may be finally catching up to Elon Musk as Tesla stock tumbles | CNN...](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/19/business/elon-musk-tesla-stock-nightcap/index.html)** > > Elon Musk’s DC power grab hasn’t been the Tesla booster investors were expecting. > **[Hundreds gather outside Tesla showrooms in backlash to Elon Musk’s role with...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/15/business/elon-musk-tesla-demonstrations-doge/index.html)** > > There will be more than 80 protests on Saturday and another 76 are already listed to take place through the end of April, according to the Tesla Takedown organizing website. Or is this simply a bump on musk’s road to becoming a MAGA deity and the leader of Mars? Oh the dreams some aspire to … ---
**Author:** ![morgankane01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/morgankane01/32/28536_2.png) [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/2 "2025-03-28T16:10:59Z")
If i am not mistaken, Musk has borrowed much money for risky investments, with his Tesla stock as warrant. If the price of the stock goes down under some level, the warrant is no more covering the risk. And that will make the lenders very nervous. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/3 "2025-03-28T17:35:39Z")
He knows how to build something from nothing and he will do it again. Focusing efforts on one train wreck leaves the bigger problem unfixed ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/4 "2025-03-29T01:58:16Z")
> [@lausten](#): > > Focusing efforts Who’s doing that? This is simply one item. The space-race to moon, or Mars as target, is magnitudes worse, and even stupider, there is that. > [@lausten](#): > > leaves the bigger problem unfixed Well the decision has been made that we will not fix anything, we are too busy creating new problems. We have fundamental issues that lie at the root of all our problems (_despite all our good potential_) that is can be can be boiled down to, Knowing oneself in respect to the big questions - that religion and philosophy where created to answer. Human’s self-absorbed nature and its self-serving attitude toward everything. That’s why everything beautiful that humans create, other humans must destroyed. A half century of obvious lies intend to get people to hate government, hate experts, hate learning, hate taking responsibly - and all the good people went about believing “progress” would figure it all out, and we didn’t have to worry about it. So go out and enjoy this amazing material gluttonous party that was happening. Enjoy. Me, me, me mattered, Earth and other creatures and things didn’t matter. Nature, environmentalism, ecology, because a laughing stock, to be dismissed. Lausten you keep sharing the videos of people repeating beautiful words and thoughts - but I rarely hear nature mentioned - so there self obsessed as ever is my general verdict - but lordie lordie I’d better not say so in public. . . . . . . . . . . We can’t discuss it because that makes people uncomfortable … because they won’t listen so I shouldn’t say it … I know, I better not accuse people of having thin skins, even when they are obviously insulted and angry cause I’m scratching at primal faults. It makes people uncomfortable, so shut up, go away, sssslllaaaaamm. > **[A historic snafu in need of revisiting](https://citizenschallenge.blogspot.com/2008/08/historic-snafu-in-need-of-revisiting.html)** We as a people accepted America First, [now we are in a free fall](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq-vK6nyPDY) and if one thinks about it seriously, all the complexity, the cascade potential consequences, the climate black swans that will upend and terrorize regions, it can drive one insane, unless one has a mighty deep foundation and peace within oneself. That truly in your gut understanding who you are - because that’s what it’s going to come down do when the poop starts seriously hitting the fan, because it will and it’s no long decades into the future - we have given our government over to science fiction raving lunatics. It can’t do anything but get worse, we’ve put the ugliest most self-interested and ruthless criminal minds in charge. All bets will be off. Location will matter like it hasn’t in millennia, as will health, age and stubborn willingness to survive. Only thing we can be sure of is that usher in a new dark ages - young people have no clue what all it took to create - and all they took for granted - nor do they care - but they will care, you don’t know what you got, till it’s gone. Read the beginning of this thread. > [@citizenschallengev4](#): > > I’ll admit schadenfreude is a pathetic emotion, but hey I’m just human and occasionally can’t help it. A super-sized monster as Musk has turned out to be, deserves all the universe dumps on him. So I agree with you, Tesla vehicles are utterly trivial to the big story. Just another financial balloon in the making - . . . * * * Mental health tip. After rattling one’s brains on the hopelessness of our current situation, . . . a good solid music fix is the best medicine. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/4/8/48da07feff9d3470956a0be119e964e4bf13a24e.jpeg "Crime Of The Century") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpAUDOI24Oo) To me it seems that music is finest example of **Religion** {as in, human’s attempting to touch the essence of “God”} that humanity ever created. _Right time and place, toss in dance and music allows one to touch the gods and the universe within your mind, as closely as is humanly possible._ ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/5 "2025-03-29T02:07:23Z")
I remember that one from the dormitory days on campus. I missed those last lines though > But that’s not right - oh no, what’s the story? > Look! There’s you and there’s me > (That can’t be right…) ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/6 "2025-03-29T02:24:40Z")
> Now they’re planning the crime of the century > Well, what will it be? > Read all about their schemes and adventuring > Yes, it’s well worth a fee > > So roll up and see > How they rape the universe > How they’ve gone from bad to worse > > Who are these men of lust, greed and glory? > Rip off the masks and let’s see > But that’s not right, oh, no, what’s the story? > But there’s you and there’s me > > That can’t be Yeah that’s it, the guitar takes over and then the music says it all, _(I guess 😉) for them._ History had yet to write the story, now we know. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/7 "2025-03-29T12:40:24Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#): > > History had yet to write the story, now we know. The song is about how it’s us. It’s always us. The mask is the same analogy as Plato’s cave. ---
**Author:** ![mytwocentsworth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mytwocentsworth/32/28536_2.png) [@mytwocentsworth](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mytwocentsworth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/8 "2025-03-30T11:23:03Z")
Wasnt hated when he called for the overthrow of ivo morales ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/what-happened-to-the-musk-trump-team-when-tesla-fails/11421/9 "2025-03-30T23:31:52Z")
> [@mytwocentsworth](#): > > Wasnt hated when he called for the overthrow of ivo Morales You are such a jerk. **[Ivo Morales](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ivo+Morales&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)** would have probably held you in contempt. Why? All talk (¿ … seems to me), have you ever actually done anything of value??? Me, thinks, if there were anything about the “good faith” or “honest curiosity” about you, you would at least ask a serious question that the other can understand and respond to. ### {but dialogue is not your intention is it?} You can’t even pull it together enough for that - . . . There’s nothing to discuss or care about - and I guess that’s the purpose of the vandal crowd, … me thinks you are part of that.