War Drums in the Ukraine

Man that nice self-effacing comedian, sure turned into one ruthless nation builder. See another example of how our environmental circumstances mold us.

He’s hitting back on the battle field, seems he’s beyond all of Putin threats and is out to destroy the enemy that wanted to destroy him with such casual disregard for morality or common sense for that matter.

I guess the Rubicon has been crossed, and all bets are off.

as well as the Western and Eastern political establishments, regarded him with some concern and even suspicion: a humorist and showman with no prior experience in public administration, what (he) might do once in office was unpredictable. The new president was not a professional politician, his team included no known diplomats and activists, and his platform was both vague and heavily populist.

…wait … Who are they talking about?

It’s about time

An assembly of representatives drawn from 46 national parliaments across Europe voted overwhelmingly in favor on Thursday for a resolution calling on European countries to “declare the current Russian regime as a terrorist one.”

PACE is a parliamentary body of the Council of Europe, an international organization separate from the European Union. It has a broader membership, including countries like Turkey, Ukraine and the United Kingdom, as well as transcontinental countries such as Azerbaijan. PACE consists of national parliamentarians drawn from its member nations.

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Interesting. :+1:t2:

pace.coe.int/en/news
Council Of Europe, Parliamentary Assembly

Trump is calling for an end to the Ukraine war now. He is not the only one. =Eleven ultra rightwing Republican House members in the U.S. Congress are sponsoring legislation to immediatly end all military aid to Ukraine and broker peace,

The Ukraine war policy of the Democratic party with Biden at its head has thereby opened the door for the most fascistic elements in the Republican party to posture as doves of peace, calling for an end to all military aid to Ukraine and immediate peace there. These ultr-repugnent elements may well ba able to drag the whole Republican leadership eventually with them.- The problem is that the ‘peace’ platform is a mechanism to bring full fascism into the ‘mainstream’ via this tendency and ultimately to political power and a war against China, et al.

Ultra right supports Putin because they share same ideology. In 1939, Ultra right supported Hitler for the same reasons.

And some ultra left support Russia because they are enclosed in cold war schema : USA are the bad imperialist and Russia is fighting against it, neglecting that Russia is also an imperialist country.

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Yes and occupy the Eastern Ukraine with Russian soldiers. What are you thinking?

Do you want me to lock you up and isolate you in your business so that I can occupy your home?

Your concept of peace is “give the ENEMY whatever they take”, but that is not peace. That is the definition of being occupied.

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Macron to visit china as the west panics that china has entered the diplomatic front with a peace plan while the west can offer ukraine nothing in terms of diplomacy and militarily to end the war

Yes, Russia has come begging China. The war that Russia started is not going well.

Apparently the west is providing sufficient assistance for Ukraine to defend itself against Russian aggression. It is up to Putin to end the war he started.

I’m sure China will assist with the diplomacy.

Imagine the look of china resolving this conflict through diplomatic means. And terms not to the wests liking???

Example?
Can you think of a scenario that would be to Ukraine’s liking but not to the “west’s” liking?
BTW who is the “west” and what exactly do you have against the “west”, i.e “democracies”?

Which terms west would not like if it allows an independent and sovereign Ukraine?

If peace comes, i would be happy.

Sure. Thats what real anti war activists are calling for. This cant be resolved militarily. Has to be diplomacy and the reality is it would not be on ukraine terms.

Tell us about the growing demonstrations in your country with this regard

Please answer my question : Which terms west would not like if it allows an independent and sovereign Ukraine?

Allow me to double down on that question with a slight rephrasing.
“Which terms would the west not like if it allows an independent and sovereign Ukraine?”

Russia Crimea, the Russian recognition of the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk territories the demilitarisation of ukraine and Ukraine nit joining nato.

Can ypu now enlighten us what is happening in your country on this front?

If Putin had not tried to destroy Ukraine but had taken east Ukraine and told, i want peace and security, Crimea and No extension of Nato, and i promise that i will give up all the territories of east Ukraine, I would have winced but i would have said fair enough.

Now, if Ukraine accepts the loss of her eastern territories, i will say OK, but i don’t believe it will accept that in any foreseeable futur.

Were you saying this a year ago? Have you changed you stance on this?

Oh so you are from Russia?

Note that people from Russia are welcome to CFI.
But people supporting mass murder, wherever they come from, are not welcome in my world.