# Violence

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 2, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763 "2016-02-02T00:52:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![inthedarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/inthedarkness/32/23404_2.png) [@inthedarkness](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/inthedarkness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/41 "2023-11-27T23:12:33Z")

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> [@zedenko77](#):
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> The Palestinian question is on the front page now and the pro Palestinian public support has exploded around the world. I have never seen the media in general push back so hard on the israeli propaganda as they are now

Again not really, you’re more just noticing it now. It’s sorta always been the case. But then something else will happen and people will forget.

Though this time I guess the change is Israel being way more overt with it now. Though Biden still defending them is likely to lead to another Trump term.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/42 "2023-11-27T23:28:46Z")

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Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem

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**Author:** ![zedenko77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/779978/32.png) [@zedenko77](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/zedenko77)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/43 "2023-11-28T02:09:45Z")

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Yes biden is being taken to the cleaners for his support of this genocide. Palestinian question is not going away.

Israels actions here has really opened up the eyes of many people to what it really is - an apartheid colonial settler state and not as the only democracy in the middle east most moral army in the world garbage israel wants the world to believe

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/44 "2023-11-28T02:21:14Z")

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> [@zedenko77](#):
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> an apartheid colonial settler state and not as the only democracy on the middle east most moral army in the world garbage israel wants the world to believe

Some punctuation would really help here.

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**Author:** ![lozenge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lozenge/32/23405_2.png) [@lozenge](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lozenge)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/45 "2023-12-19T09:38:47Z")

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> [@mriana](#):
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> 1. Exactly that or 2B and C , as well as 3B in the link, if you must have a definition:  
> [Primitive Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/primitive)
> 2. Yes, some are more violent than others and some are less violent. I myself wouldn’t kill anything except bugs and rodents that invade my home.
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> I could even go as far to say that humans are primitive animals concerning their violent tendencies.

I think progress is sophistication. That is, precise and deep reflections about reality, division of labor, complex government with different powers balancing each other, precise and deep understanding and sharing of emotions and thoughts between individuals, precise and deep understanding and acceptation of emotions and thoughts in each individual, etc.

The contrary of sophistication, unsosphistication, leads to prejudices, unnecessary violence and despotism.

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**Author:** ![lozenge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lozenge/32/23405_2.png) [@lozenge](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lozenge)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/violence/4763/46 "2023-12-19T09:43:12Z")

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It is easy to hide a lot of (unfair/unjustified) violence behind unsophistication, because it makes things unclear.

It is difficult to hide (unfair/unjustified) violence with sophistication, because it makes things clear.

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