# To prevent mass shooting

**URL:** https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues
**Created:** [August 6, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600 "2019-08-06T23:29:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/41 "2019-08-10T12:55:08Z")

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Responding to the bolded text. I left it up to you. Pick a subject. I don’t think much get accomplished when several subjects are covered at the same time. Make is simple then it is easy to follow and move forward. I’m not sure where you’re at, due to the trouble with posting. I had trouble with the posting after the site was rebuilt and that was no fun.

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### Author: ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/42 "2019-08-10T13:24:51Z")

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> Tee – so then. Do you agree with me with real wages as the metric, Trump is not THE problem?

My answer to that; no. However, that's who is leading the charge right now. In 1960 would you have asked "Do you agree the KKK is not THE problem?" My guess is you would have. But I hope you see how bad that question is. If there is a man in the White House using racism to put forth policy that will benefit only a few rich people, who happen to be mostly white, that's a problem.

[https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/08/white-supremacist-terrorism-is-longstanding-americ.html?fbclid=IwAR1rxNsWxxpBWkSllQiiyDlHs84GCdW-PZH66Q9lyvHVc6RDhuRwmW4QLMg](https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/08/white-supremacist-terrorism-is-longstanding-americ.html?fbclid=IwAR1rxNsWxxpBWkSllQiiyDlHs84GCdW-PZH66Q9lyvHVc6RDhuRwmW4QLMg)

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### Author: ![timb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@timb](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/timb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/43 "2019-08-10T15:25:04Z")

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Thanks for the chart, Mike. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/e/e0ed2384703142068a71cb68245cbf9f625c50f7.png)

As we can see, the purchasing power of American wages is as low as it was in 1964. During these past 45 years, do you think that the purchasing power of the extremely wealthy has not exceeded what it was in 1964? (Multiple times over?) Yet the Trump tax cut, benefitted who? Average wage earners? Not particularly. The filthy rich? Bingo!

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### Author: ![timb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@timb](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/timb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/44 "2019-08-10T15:25:53Z")

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Sorry, I meant thanks for the chart Write4U!

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### Author: ![timb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@timb](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/timb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/45 "2019-08-10T15:33:24Z")

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And ty, Tee, for eloquently defending my post after Player suggested that my brain is dysfunctional.

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/46 "2019-08-10T15:44:38Z")

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Yeah, read my article when you can. (On the economy since then)

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/47 "2019-08-10T17:56:20Z")

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“Your question here is like that. Did I SAY that I blame Trump for wages not being higher? No. I’m criticizing his false narrative that wages have increased wildly under his Presidency.”

No thats why i ephasised the word THE in the question as a counter to Timb claim that trump is the problem why things are as they are and his removal will be the resolution. That is the point being made here. I used wages to highlight the issue predates trump and his removal alone will not change anything.

Is that so difficult to comprehend i wonder?? What the root causes could be of wage stagnation over the last 30 years? Whats your critical analyis??

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### Author: ![timb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@timb](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/timb)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/48 "2019-08-10T18:11:53Z")

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Tee, I checked out your Quora site. That’s great stuff!

Parker, How about answering your own question? You seem confident that you know the answer. Why prompt others to answer what you could say yourself?

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/49 "2019-08-10T18:24:25Z")

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And then there is this gem

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“ **Let’s look back. In the 1930s and 1940s, Communism —and Fascism disguised as Socialism”**

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/50 "2019-08-10T18:32:28Z")

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What a surprise. Epstein kills himself

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/51 "2019-08-10T18:43:54Z")

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> Is that so difficult to comprehend i wonder?? What the root causes could be of wage stagnation over the last 30 years? Whats your critical analyis??

It's been a while since I wrote it, but I'm pretty sure I mentioned a couple root causes in the article I wrote that I posted earlier today. Well, that was my "critical analysis" of the US economy & standard of living in the post-war era overall.

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/52 "2019-08-10T18:46:19Z")

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So the system is the issue. Right??

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/53 "2019-08-10T18:55:28Z")

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“The system?”

LOL

“The system” is … everything.

“The system” as opposed to what?

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/54 "2019-08-10T19:21:26Z")

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Why are you LOL? Is this a joke? The economic system we call capitalism Ms Dodgewell. Do you look at yanis varifakous video below??

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/55 "2019-08-10T19:44:59Z")

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Mike

Dude

What?! Like, do you do a lot of weed? Because the way you conflate ideas and state “facts” with such assurance you know the topic makes me wonder.

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Like this:

> OT 1,200 pages and 1,200 pages for the NT.

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The Old & New Testaments are no where NEAR the same length.

Old Testament: 993 pages

New Testament: 288 pages

The OT is almost 4 times longer than the NT.

Or:

> Morality is measured by rules of laws needed and the growth of a caste system

Those are just words strewn together in a sentence that doesn't mean anything.

Anyhow, I asked if you were responding to my other comment, because in it, I explained why I don’t need you Mansplaning early Christianity to me. But I see it’s vanished again anyhow.

So, a few things…

I get the feeling you read a few alternative history books, and now everything you think you know came from them. And you keep throwing out “facts” thinking I’ll be amazed.

Well, I was Eastern Orthodox for 20 years, and was married to a priest, and so I know a little about the topic.

And in 2001, I researched and visited 400 historic & noteable churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, Native American burial grounds & pagan sites, and I published a whole book on the topic. So I know a bit about world religions too.

You had said,

> The bible for example is about morals...not about god or heaven and hell...If it was, it is the worst book ever writ­ten.

Bwahahaa!!!!!!!

The Bible IS an example of morals — very, very BAD ones. The very first brother kills his other brother … and things get worse from there.

The Old and New Testaments ARE about God. That is the topic.

And it isn’t a “book” that was “written.” It’s a collection of between 66 and 81 books (depending on the branch of Christianity), written by multiple authors, that was compiled over thousands of years.

Anyway, bottom line. I already know, based on what you have said to others, that you will blow off anything I say once you find out that I’m part of the “fake news media,” rabidly anti-Trump and a lifetime Progressive.

So I don’t care to waste any more time.

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/56 "2019-08-10T19:46:14Z")

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I had to respond to to at the very bottom, Mike.

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### Author: ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/57 "2019-08-10T19:53:29Z")

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> Those are just words strewn together in a sentence that doesn’t mean anything.

The reason why is explained with a gentle chiding:by Lewis Black
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcTjGs6_yhU)

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### Author: ![teebryantoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@teebryantoo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/teebryantoo)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/58 "2019-08-10T19:54:08Z")

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> The economic system we call capitalism Ms Dodgewell.

Oh. No, then. Because "Capitalism" isn't the reason wages have been stagnant for 40 years. Wages rose for like 150 years under Capitalism prior to 1980.

Which you’d know if you had read my article.

Actually, on Quora, where I have like 2,500 followers, I have developed a reputation for respectful debate.

The rules there are enforced. Not like here. I discovered that here, people are pretty disrespectful. And so I’m disrespectful back.

Between you and Mike, I can’t even.

I won’t respond if you are going to call me names.

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### Author: ![player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19b73/32.png) [@player](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/player)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/59 "2019-08-10T19:56:54Z")

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Did you watch yanis’s video ?

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### Author: ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/to-prevent-mass-shooting/6600/60 "2019-08-10T20:15:30Z")

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A little follow up after some reflection:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/4/46e9f6ef36782cb0f542a71105e0d883b386958f.jpeg "Yom Kippur") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtiaN_Dp-E)

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