# The Day the Music Burned **URL:** \ **Category:** Entertainment and Pop Culture\ **Created:** [June 29, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541 "2019-06-29T21:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev3/32/17_2.png) [@citizenschallengev3](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev3)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/1 "2019-06-29T21:47:18Z")
The fire swept across the backlot of Universal Studios Hollywood on Sunday, June 1, 2008\ It wasn’t until June 11, 2019 that the world and a great many artistic discovered what was lost. This is so indicative of American disregard for its legacy, on every level. Me First does carry a cost. Guess those executive bonuses would have taken a hit to build a proper and protected warehouse - fuk the Precautionary Principle anyway. Wave that flag.   > The Day the Music Burned It was the biggest disaster in the history of the music business — and almost nobody knew. This is the story of the 2008 Universal fire. > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/magazine/universal-fire-master-recordings.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/magazine/universal-fire-master-recordings.html) > > The fire made news around the world, and the destruction of the video vault featured prominently in the coverage. But nearly all news outlets characterized the vault fire as a close call, in which worst cases were averted. The New York Times reported that “a vault full of video and television images” had burned up, but added that “in no case was the destroyed material the only copy of a work,” a claim attributed to Universal Studios officials. Subsequent articles focused on the fire’s impact on film festivals, which relied on prints from Universal’s library. But journalists moved on from the story, and there has never been a full accounting of film and video losses in the fire. … > > UMG’s accounting of its losses, detailed in a March 2009 document marked “CONFIDENTIAL,” put the number of “assets destroyed” at 118,230. Randy Aronson considers that estimate low: The real number, he surmises, was “in the 175,000 range.” If you extrapolate from either figure, tallying songs on album and singles masters, the number of destroyed recordings stretches into the hundreds of thousands. In another confidential report, issued later in 2009, UMG asserted that “an estimated 500K song titles” were lost.     ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev3/32/17_2.png) [@citizenschallengev3](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev3)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/2 "2019-06-29T21:50:46Z")
  > Among the incinerated Decca masters were recordings by titanic figures in American music: Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Al Jolson, Bing Crosby, Ella Fitzgerald, Judy Garland. The tape masters for Billie Holiday’s Decca catalog were most likely lost in total. The Decca masters also included recordings by such greats as Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five and Patsy Cline. > > The fire most likely claimed most of Chuck Berry’s Chess masters and multitrack masters, … including most of the Chess output of Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Willie Dixon, Bo Diddley, Etta James, John Lee Hooker, Buddy Guy and Little Walter, Aretha Franklin, the Rev. C.L. Franklin, who made dozens of albums for Chess and its sublabels. > > Virtually all of Buddy Holly’s masters were lost in the fire. Most of John Coltrane’s Impulse masters were lost, as were masters for treasured Impulse releases by Ellington, Count Basie, Coleman Hawkins, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Sonny Rollins, Charles Mingus, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, Pharoah Sanders and other jazz greats. Also apparently destroyed were the masters for dozens of canonical hit singles, including Bill Haley and His Comets’ “Rock Around the Clock,” Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats’ “Rocket 88,” Bo Diddley’s “Bo Diddley/I’m A Man,” Etta James’s “At Last,” the Kingsmen’s “Louie Louie” and the Impressions’ “People Get Ready.” > > The list of destroyed single and album masters takes in titles by dozens of legendary artists, a genre-spanning who’s who of 20th- and 21st-century popular music. It includes recordings by Benny Goodman, Cab Calloway, the Andrews Sisters, the Ink Spots, the Mills Brothers, Lionel Hampton, Ray Charles, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Clara Ward, Sammy Davis Jr., Les Paul, Fats Domino, Big Mama Thornton, Burl Ives, the Weavers, Kitty Wells, Ernest Tubb, Lefty Frizzell, Loretta Lynn, George Jones, Merle Haggard, Bobby (Blue) Bland, B.B. King, Ike Turner, the Four Tops, Quincy Jones, Burt Bacharach, Joan Baez, Neil Diamond, Sonny and Cher, the Mamas and the Papas, Joni Mitchell, Captain Beefheart, Cat Stevens, the Carpenters, Gladys Knight and the Pips, Al Green, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Elton John, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Buffett, the Eagles, Don Henley, Aerosmith, Steely Dan, Iggy Pop, Rufus and Chaka Khan, Barry White, Patti LaBelle, Yoko Ono, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, the Police, Sting, George Strait, Steve Earle, R.E.M., Janet Jackson, Eric B. and Rakim, New Edition, Bobby Brown, Guns N’ Roses, Queen Latifah, Mary J. Blige, Sonic Youth, No Doubt, Nine Inch Nails, Snoop Dogg, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Hole, Beck, Sheryl Crow, Tupac Shakur, Eminem, 50 Cent and the Roots. > > Then there are masters for largely forgotten artists that were stored in the vault: tens of thousands of gospel, blues, jazz, country, soul, disco, pop, easy listening, classical, comedy and spoken-word records that may now exist only as written entries in discographies. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/3 "2019-07-02T22:31:28Z")
A shame for the musicians as their future royalties must be jeopardized. On the plus side some wrinkly old rock stars might not be able to rip off their fans anymore by constantly reissuing their old shit every decade as remasters. That goes for Universal as well. Ultimately it sounds like careless contractors are the main culprit rather than “greedy executives”. At any rate it’s pretty meaningless to society – as it should be. ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev3/32/17_2.png) [@citizenschallengev3](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev3)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/4 "2019-07-03T00:31:37Z")
I’m curious, what sort of stuff do you find “meaningful” for society?   Oh and don’t blame nothing on them poor execs ? Really? Except for setting priorities and projects and allocating funds. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 8:04am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/5 "2019-12-13T08:04:30Z")
> CC-v.3 said, > > I’m curious, what sort of stuff do you find “meaningful” for society? Michel Petrucciani played some meaningful jazz. R.I.P. Michel. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/2/2bcc7546e64640076bb6b37f76470224e6c0516e.jpeg "Michel Petrucciani - Brazilian Like") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vkMH5paV5c) and for an encore [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/f/f9854f8d1e8a2eb0bc32599d1b77a39410aee679.jpeg "Michel Petrucciani - Cantabile / Trio in Tokyo 1997") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsqjAPcaafg) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/6 "2019-12-22T20:24:01Z")
I really like this Dutch singer. She has a unique but very endearing retro sound. She is very well liked in Holland. Go Caro Emerald! https://www.youtube.com/embed/6sQGQEmZS10?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL78E67A33AF093D13 and https://www.youtube.com/embed/jo1cyl0QbWo?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL78E67A33AF093D13 ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/7 "2020-01-01T04:11:45Z")
Anyone familiar with Jean Luc Ponty, jazz violinist? Have a listen to this musical tour de force. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/1X/231b907cb4b25566fe9a4719ab2afe7696037913.jpeg "Jean Luc Ponty & his Band - Celtic Steps - Jig. (composed by Jean Luc Ponty).mp4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EdKGBy-LWY) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/8 "2020-01-01T04:29:10Z")
While I’m at it, this is another astounding musical performance by two extraordinary guitarists Bireli Lagrene and Vic Juris playing the all time classic “Spain”. It’ll leave you breathless! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/a/a5e223fe931beacf34e8a1e59d67c217e8a74c66.jpeg ""Spain" by. Chick Corea (Bireli Lagrene, Vic Juris Guirar Duet!!!!!! Fantastik!!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkQNJToXI8) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/9 "2020-01-01T04:35:46Z")
And last but not least this all-time jewel in the crown of great jazz. The Modern Jazz Quartet ode to Django Reinhardt. John Lewis’ piano solo is a little masterpiece of understatement with maximum effect. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/1/1fb52fb5251ae9a64a1e57b0580a0dcf87aa83eb.jpeg "Modern Jazz Quartet - Django (HQ)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ksM27dVfs) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/10 "2020-01-08T16:01:09Z")
This little masterpiece of romantic jubilation shall always be one of my favorites. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/d/8/d8083a6382ccbb50512a6ec6213ae56a2bea6de1.jpeg "Michel Petrucciani - Estate (Summer in Italia) Live at Montreux 1990") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPuiDrXp2XA) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/11 "2020-01-11T04:46:58Z")
A taste of modern Mongolian throat singing. Listen to the overtones he creates with his vocal cords. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/a/1/a15a8f6d4fa56b58070fa7b99d939517c5f193af.jpeg "Horse head fiddle player Ts Galbadrakh") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brwdWi-GszE) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/12 "2020-01-30T21:57:12Z")
So may it secretly begin…Pat Metheny. The most compelling guitar sound in jazz [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/2/29f24a87f897bbeb9de842e06f0558f6f0749a23.jpeg "Pat Metheny - So May it Secretly Begin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjaW-3MO-n4) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/13 "2020-02-13T01:20:19Z")
And a wonderful Louisiana shuffle by Paul Simon. A wonderful hypnotic rhythm and delightful lyrics. “Afterlife” https://www.youtube.com/embed/FQzSMvNMvBY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDFQzSMvNMvBY ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/14 "2020-03-01T14:05:33Z")
Bill Evans ! One of the all timegreat jazz pianists; “I’ve got you under my skin” (with Jim Hall) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/c/cfc45c84205238e69442406624ed5817ca4f9b9a.jpeg "(1966) Bill Evans & Jim Hall - I've Got You Under My Skin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylzweSpaFDg)   ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/15 "2020-05-11T05:35:35Z")
This music is timeless Lizz Wright, Toots Thielemans [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/3/303a3820e0b3bb04b9b4c5621fffba79854df7c4.jpeg "Come Rain Or Come Shine ♫ Toots Thielemans Ft. Lizz Wright") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkB7EbhXJ8U) ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/16 "2020-05-11T07:00:36Z")
And an actual version of “The Afterlife” with Paul Simon. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/9/927c485ae8e2f0baeee00b53394ad64a5899345a.jpeg "Paul Simon - The Afterlife") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzSMvNMvBY) ---
**Author:** ![3point14rat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/3point14rat/32/26463_2.png) [@3point14rat](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/3point14rat)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/17 "2020-05-11T12:52:58Z")
Here’s a duet that I somehow missed until a few weeks ago. Not sure why this video was never suggested by YouTube - I’ve made enough searches for each of these guys individually that you’d have thought a video with both of them would pop up as a suggestion before now. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/8/8f3754b6796fb286cd6cd194dcab81161f3ed447.jpeg "Paul Simon & Goerge Harrison- Here Comes The Sun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEgBMTMUanU) Enjoy (not that you couldn’t if you tried.) ---
**Author:** ![rocala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/rocala/32/27_2.png) [@rocala](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/rocala)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/18 "2020-11-19T12:44:54Z")
Regardless of ones own particular tastes, this is a terrible catastrophe. I am ashamed to say that I was unaware, a lot of things passed me by in 2008 but that is no excuse. Thank you for the information. ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev3/32/17_2.png) [@citizenschallengev3](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev3)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/19 "2020-11-26T10:50:38Z")
Wow, I hadn’t noticed how this thread blossomed, that’s an evening worth of music to catch up on. Also since I’m not particularly adventurous when it comes to music, I’m not familiar with a number of those artists and look forward to going through and hitting play and sitting back to enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541/20 "2021-01-14T22:29:09Z")
This is one of my favorite guitar players. Pat Metheny has the most romantic sound . [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/2X/f/f31415e85c78865708d46372953b737dff87cb35.jpeg "So May It Secretly Begin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmc2JgoUOYU) https://www.youtube.com/embed/__N8fMTZa-s?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL750uPnj8ciCpGjkimiVLCDVsJbiLDFoV [Next page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-day-the-music-burned/6541.md?page=2)