# Stormy Daniels and that Orange Thing **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 10, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828 "2024-05-10T13:57:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/1 "2024-05-10T13:57:32Z")
Stormy Daniels is a very smart women, despite any stereotype of her chosen career. Her word choices were brilliant, even though I consider it a form of rape. She didn’t want to have sex with that orange slim ball. What woman would? Shoot, if he attempted to grab me by the p\*\*\*\*, I’d deck him hard, then keep calling a mistrial until I got a female judge (hey, turn about is fair play). Anyway, back to Stormy… 1. The Dotard would not let her out of the room. 2. he threaten any career she wanted 3. she didn’t want to do it. BUT she conceded because 1. She probably wasn’t getting out of that room until she did 2. she want something by way of a career, even if it was behind the camera in porn. Of course she made at least one mistake, one of them being she should not have agreed to meet the Dotard in a hotel room. However, the moment he refused to allow her to leave and force her to concede to having sex with him, was the moment it the “balance power” changed, but it is also the moment that it became a form of rape in my open. If one has to concede to have sex with someone just to leave the room, then it is forced sex and that is the very definition of rape. Not even a woman who is a sex worker should be forced to have sex with anyone they do not want to have sex with. Then again, I am pretty liberal also and the very thought of that Orange creature makes me want to puke. Anyone else have anything thoughts about this case? ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/2 "2024-05-10T16:08:56Z")
Sounds like you looked into the details. I’ve been watching the mainstream news and just getting the high level stuff. I doubt my mind would be changed significantly if I read all of the testimony. Are they releasing transcripts? ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 4:41am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/3 "2024-05-11T04:41:50Z")
I don’t know. I’ve just been watching MSNBC and Free Speech TV, read Wash Po, and NY Times, as well as listened to my local news about it. Yeah, I guess I have looked into it. I’ll have to find what I’ve been reading on Wash Po and NY Times and share the links here. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/4 "2024-05-11T05:27:22Z")
The case has nothing to do with sex per se. Nothing illegal about that. It was the illegal hush-payment to “bury” the embarrassing story just before the elections that was illegal. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/5 "2024-05-11T20:43:11Z")
I understand that. I was just talking about what she said in trial, not the case itself. Here’s on article on it: > **[Stormy Daniels, Echoing Trump’s Style, Pushes Back at Lawyer’s Attacks](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/nyregion/trump-trial-stormy-daniels-hush-money.html)** > > In a second day of cross-examination, Ms. Daniels resisted the implication she had tried to shake down Donald J. Trump by selling her story of a sexual liaison. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/6 "2024-05-11T20:52:30Z")
Here’s the transcript and more: > **[Stormy Daniels’s stormiest cross-examination moments, from the trial transcript](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/10/stormy-daniels-trump-trial-transcript-testimony/)** > > Daniels faced hours of aggressive questioning from Trump’s attorney, Susan Necheles. > **[Adult film star Stormy Daniels testifies against Trump in New York trial](https://www.npr.org/2024/05/07/1249318101/stormy-daniels-trump-trial-new-york)** > > Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, has spent the last several years in legal battles with former President Trump. She has taken the stand to testify against him in a criminal trial. ---
**Author:** ![mytwocentsworth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mytwocentsworth/32/28536_2.png) [@mytwocentsworth](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mytwocentsworth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/7 "2024-05-13T08:38:30Z")
The democrats were all about jan 6th and saving democracy (how?) yet choose to lead their charge against trump with the stormy daniels case. Nobody cares about this case. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/8 "2024-05-13T13:16:52Z")
> [@mytwocentsworth](#): > > Nobody cares about this case. Nobody is a big word and not true at all. There are people who do care about all the cases against the Dotard and hope to see him go to prison, despite some people saying it will never happen. We still hope it will happen. I’m not the only one who hopes this. I have several friends who hope this. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/9 "2024-05-13T15:14:35Z")
> [@mriana](#): > > Nobody is a big word Also, the Supreme Court cares. They had hearings on the limits of the power of the Presidency. It’s so obvious the powers are limited, it seems like a delay tactic to me. But it’s kept ot out of the 24 hour news cycle. Similar for other cases ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/10 "2024-05-13T19:18:38Z")
> [@mytwocentsworth](#): > > Nobody cares about this case. Biden does. The Democrat lawyers say it’s about over pricing his buildings for a loan. I have yet to see why Biden would send the third top lawyer in the US to handle a state charge on the value of a building. What has Daniels got to do with valuing a building? Biden wants the judge to take Trump’s business away and assign it to a Democrat manager. It is all political. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/11 "2024-05-13T19:38:53Z")
> **[Opinion | Stormy Daniels turned the tables on Trump. And he had to watch it...](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/stormy-daniels-testimony-trump-rcna151359?cid=eml_mda_20240513&user_email=29cb357dcac478830b52fa107f701cc85e12729aa18fa4ef9a07255543b505de)** > > Trump was president once, and he might be again in the future, but this time, Daniels was in control. Don’t know what the outcome will be, but the dotard is screwed. No pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/12 "2024-05-13T22:48:27Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > I have yet to see why Biden would send Biden didn’t send anyone. He’s not a King. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/13 "2024-05-14T06:25:41Z")
> [@lausten](#): > > Biden didn’t send anyone. OK, take the long road. Lawyers go to meetings at the WH. Then file cases against Trump. Cases don’t go well. The WH sends the third highest lawyer. This is where you find the issue. The guy had to quit the job as the federal governments third highest attorney to take on a state job at a county in New York state that happens to be prosecuting Trump. What are the charges. We really don’t know yet. What do you think the next job will be for this attorney’s pathway to the bottom of the pile. Flipping burgers at a fast-food outlet? Will the requests for the transcripts of the WH meetings ever get released? These cases will most likely be studied in colleges as examples of political prosecution and corruption. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/14 "2024-05-14T11:34:34Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > OK, take the long road. that is your modus operandi isn’t it? Would it be so hard to simply give me a name? Who is “the guy”? Then I could find the circumstances of when he “quit” his job. I do know the charges because that’s how courts work. I don’t know what happens in meetings that I don’t know happened or not. I’m not that great at predicting the future, but presently, I’m not repeating talking points from Trump’s lackeys. ---
**Author:** ![mytwocentsworth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mytwocentsworth/32/28536_2.png) [@mytwocentsworth](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mytwocentsworth)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/15 "2024-05-16T01:46:15Z")
> [@mriana](#): > > Nobody is a big word and not true at all. Who cares if he paid for sex 18 years ago?? ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/16 "2024-05-16T03:10:00Z")
Most people don’t care about it besides the fact that it’s part of the lawfare against Trump. They’re throwing everything they can find against him and hoping that something sticks. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/17 "2024-05-16T03:54:29Z")
> [@mytwocentsworth](#): > > Who cares if he paid for sex 18 years ago?? He was paying for more than that, but I guess you don’t care about that either. So, why are you in this conversation if you don’t care? You are one of the very few people I’ve met who don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/18 "2024-05-16T11:34:14Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Most people don’t care Who is most people? I seriously doubt that, but then again I run in a different circle than you. > [@thatoneguy](#): > > hoping that something sticks. Eventually his crimes will catch up with him. He’s running out of money, that he never had to begin with. People aren’t paying his court fees like before. He’s already got a bad attorney. They question is, will she break the law for him? ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/19 "2024-05-17T01:52:16Z")
Few people care about the sex itself; plenty just want to see him get in real trouble for _something._ ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828/20 "2024-05-17T02:26:04Z")
> [@mriana](#): > > Who is most people? The fact that he went to so much trouble to cover it up shows he knows people care. The initial reaction to the Access Hollywood tape was that it was the end of his chances as President. That turned out to be wrong, even though much less has brought down many other candidates. Adding on a lurid affair to that might have actually changed enough votes. But, he’s not being tried for having sex or for rape. He’s being tried for paying someone to stay quiet because he knew it would influence the election. [Next page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/stormy-daniels-and-that-orange-thing/10828.md?page=2)