# Rick Warren's Son Commits Suicide **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745 "2013-04-07T01:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hazelnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hazelnut](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/hazelnut)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/1 "2013-04-07T01:26:42Z")
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**Author:** ![lois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@lois](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lois)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/2 "2013-04-07T07:19:44Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay? ---
**Author:** ![hazelnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hazelnut](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/hazelnut)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/3 "2013-04-07T11:04:50Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay?I can't tell if you're accusing me of setting up a straw man argument, or if you're asking if they consider being gay a mental illness? ---
**Author:** ![coldhearttucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@coldhearttucker](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coldhearttucker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/4 "2013-04-07T15:42:47Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay?Some no doubt do, but even if Warren does, its not evidence that the son was gay. ---
**Author:** ![lois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@lois](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lois)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/5 "2013-04-07T15:58:55Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay?I can't tell if you're accusing me of setting up a straw man argument, or if you're asking if they consider being gay a mental illness? I wasn't commenting on your post, per se. I was commenting on what the article said. There are a lot of people, especially Evangelical types, who consider being gay a mental illness and that's how they "treat" it. That in itself might lead a person to suicide. I don't know whether there were other issues in this case. ---
**Author:** ![lois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@lois](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lois)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/6 "2013-04-07T16:02:22Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay?Some no doubt do, but even if Warren does, its not evidence that the son was gay. No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![asanta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@asanta](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/asanta)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/7 "2013-04-07T16:34:43Z")
> No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. I've wondered the same thing, given Warren's vocal homophobia. Marie Osmond's son committed suicide, the family said he was not gay, although his close friends insisted he was. Since his death, Marie Osmond has had a very recent 'evolution' regarding the subject of homosexuality. Too bad it didn't occur while her son was still alive. I wonder if she will now admit her late son was gay. ---
**Author:** ![lois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@lois](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lois)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/8 "2013-04-07T23:07:42Z")
> No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. I've wondered the same thing, given Warren's vocal homophobia. Marie Osmond's son committed suicide, the family said he was not gay, although his close friends insisted he was. Since his death, Marie Osmond has had a very recent 'evolution' regarding the subject of homosexuality. Too bad it didn't occur while her son was still alive. I wonder if she will now admit her late son was gay. I would guess not. Certainly not while she remains a Mormon. .... ---
**Author:** ![coldhearttucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@coldhearttucker](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coldhearttucker)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/9 "2013-04-08T00:56:46Z")
> No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. I've wondered the same thing, given Warren's vocal homophobia. Marie Osmond's son committed suicide, the family said he was not gay, although his close friends insisted he was. Since his death, Marie Osmond has had a very recent 'evolution' regarding the subject of homosexuality. Too bad it didn't occur while her son was still alive. I wonder if she will now admit her late son was gay.She has an adopted daughter who's a lesbian and doesn't deny it. ---
**Author:** ![lois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@lois](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lois)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/10 "2013-04-08T03:43:28Z")
> No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. I've wondered the same thing, given Warren's vocal homophobia. Marie Osmond's son committed suicide, the family said he was not gay, although his close friends insisted he was. Since his death, Marie Osmond has had a very recent 'evolution' regarding the subject of homosexuality. Too bad it didn't occur while her son was still alive. I wonder if she will now admit her late son was gay.She has an adopted daughter who's a lesbian and doesn't deny it. Interesting. I hadn't heard that. ---
**Author:** ![hazelnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hazelnut](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/hazelnut)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/11 "2013-04-08T05:55:50Z")
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/\_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says There's a fair amount of commenting online as to weather the son was gay, and killed himself because of his father's disapproval. Some commentators seem to want that to be the case. :blank: The article said, "Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Warren and his wife Kay, died after a long struggle with mental illness." Is that what they called being gay?I can't tell if you're accusing me of setting up a straw man argument, or if you're asking if they consider being gay a mental illness? I wasn't commenting on your post, per se. I was commenting on what the article said. There are a lot of people, especially Evangelical types, who consider being gay a mental illness and that's how they "treat" it. That in itself might lead a person to suicide. I don't know whether there were other issues in this case.Cool, thanks for the clearing up. ---
**Author:** ![asanta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@asanta](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/asanta)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/rick-warrens-son-commits-suicide/2745/12 "2013-04-08T22:17:27Z")
> No, obviously not. My point was that if he was gay such an attitude could have led him to suicide. I don't know any more about his case but what has appeared in the media. He might have been truly mentally ill and homosexuality might not have been an issue. We may never know what actually happened. I've wondered the same thing, given Warren's vocal homophobia. Marie Osmond's son committed suicide, the family said he was not gay, although his close friends insisted he was. Since his death, Marie Osmond has had a very recent 'evolution' regarding the subject of homosexuality. Too bad it didn't occur while her son was still alive. I wonder if she will now admit her late son was gay.She has an adopted daughter who's a lesbian and doesn't deny it. Yes, she has 'evolved' since his death. But I wonder if she now _admits_ (if only to herself) her late son was gay, which seems very likely given the statements from his closest (probably non-mormon) friends.