# Republicans continue their march to totalitarianism **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [July 9, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973 "2024-07-09T16:01:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/41 "2024-07-13T18:41:15Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > I bet you can’t tell me who the biggest group or organization is that is dedicated to finding the science of global warming is. Oh, gee mike. Why don’t you tell me? ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/42 "2024-07-13T18:43:57Z")
> [@coffee](#): > > Oh, gee mike. Why don’t you tell me? Because your the AAAS member getting all the updates. I would be interested in an experts viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/43 "2024-07-13T18:45:38Z")
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**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/44 "2024-07-13T18:56:07Z")
Ah, shucks mike, I’m not the expert. But I listen to the scientists and boy are they pissed at the deniers. > **[‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair)** > > Exclusive: Survey of hundreds of experts reveals harrowing picture of future, but they warn climate fight must not be abandoned ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/45 "2024-07-13T18:58:26Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > How many thing can mean Election Interference? > one? > one-hundred? > one-thousand? > > It would be like getting a ticket that said - traffic violation. Now you’re making up crap. > [@mikeyohe](#): > > I bet you can’t tell me who the biggest group or organization is that is dedicated to finding the science of global warming is. There are too many to count, but how about with start with: > **[Union of Concerned Scientists](https://www.ucsusa.org/)** > > The Union of Concerned Scientists puts rigorous, independent science to work to solve our planet's most pressing problems. Joining with people across the country, we combine technical analysis and effective advocacy to create innovative, practical... ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/46 "2024-07-13T18:58:35Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > > [@coffee](#): > > > > Oh, gee mike. Why don’t you tell me? > > Because your the AAAS member getting all the updates. I would be interested in an experts viewpoint. Have you noticed that AAAS is not in it for money. They are in it for the science and their membership consists of experts in their respective fields. # American Association for the Advancement of Science > The **American Association for the Advancement of Science** ( **AAAS** ) is an American international [non-profit organization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_organization) with the stated mission of promoting cooperation among [scientists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientist), defending [scientific freedom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_freedom), encouraging scientific responsibility, and supporting [scientific education](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_education) and [science outreach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_outreach) for the betterment of all humanity.[[1]] [American Association for the Advancement of Science - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Science#cite_note-:0-1)) Do you see how silly it sounds when you question the legitimacy of AAAS? ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/47 "2024-07-13T19:03:49Z")
> [@mriana](#): > > > [@mikeyohe](#): > > > > How many thing can mean Election Interference? > > one? > > one-hundred? > > one-thousand? > > > > It would be like getting a ticket that said - traffic violation. > > Now you’re making up crap. Yea, you got me. I thought I could pull the wool over your eyes. But answer this - [ ### House Judiciary GOP calls on appellate courts to 'reverse the … [image] House Judiciary Committee Republicans | (.gov) [https://judiciary.house.gov](https://judiciary.house.gov) › media › in-the-news › hous… ]([House Judiciary GOP calls on appellate courts to 'reverse the verdict' in NY v. Trump in new staff report | House Judiciary Committee Republicans](https://judiciary.house.gov/media/in-the-news/house-judiciary-gop-calls-appellate-courts-reverse-verdict-ny-v-trump-new-staff)) 4 days ago — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin _Bragg_ and Judge Juan Merchan “worked together to deprive” former President Trump of "his constitutional … ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/48 "2024-07-13T19:04:25Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > What are you doing as member of the AAAS? Yeah Republican have hated these guy since their inception. So trash talk them all you want. But physical reality is what it is: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/0/3/03bb63927922f6b4b8e4370b30d951f7e00160a6.jpeg "Climate Spiral") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWoCXLuTIkI) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/5/6/565e298a9d345f821a9904389f73193b67251b74.jpeg "Global Warming Broken Down by Latitude Zone: 1880-2021") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6FMS7mJatM) Here’s an interesting one: Global Surface Temperature _Anomaly_: 1940 - 2023 [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/8/d/8d76aaf4797346d46cc2134ff5bc1b57d05e620a.jpeg "Global Surface Temperature Anomaly: 1940 - 2023") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaUTEB52h_w) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/b/e/beb2a017bc0c1625689120f3a1bcfa5924f0a8cf.jpeg "Sea Surface Temperatures 2022 - time lapse animation") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SfHGlfUi4) > # [Past and Contemporary Climate Change: Evidence in the Earth’s Cryosphere](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_XQdP8g0k) Happy learning ---
**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/49 "2024-07-13T19:20:04Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > Because your the AAAS member getting all the updates. I would be interested in an experts viewpoint. Well, I also read The Economist (Now that’s expensive!). I have seen where you seem to dislike “college formed” statements, but I find comfort in reading what experts are saying. I love to look for both internal and external consistency in my reading materials. They are generally in line with the mainstream media (but much deeper). What are your sources of information, Mike? > [@Palestinians and science](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/palestinians-and-science/10977/48): > > Your comments are in line with college formed statements. I am not a wordsmith. Just a retired working man. The media in my life has mostly been newspapers. The standard for newspapers is fifth grade mid-west speech. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/50 "2024-07-13T19:52:46Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > Do you see how silly it sounds when you question the legitimacy of AAAS? So, what is the AAAS doing to promoting cooperation among scientists to get the science right? Science has given me Chicken Little catastrophic political talk on climate science. It’s actions that count. The scientists say we got until the year 2000. Wait, that did not work. They now say we got into the year 2012 to get this done or we will be past the point of no return. They say they are right this time and there will be nothing we can do to fix the problem. If we pass the deadline without zero carbon in place. The earth is doomed. This is not a hard subject to deal with. If science can tell me that I need to change my life and our country needs to change its way of life to meet mankind’s goal of taking care of the earth and the living being on earth. Then I am all for that. But first I get to ask a few questions. Is that not fair? We had better hurry and not mess around or 2012 will be here before you know it. I am told we must get this done right a way because if we don’t then we hit the point of no return where no matter what we do we cannot stop the earth warming. I have heard mankind does better in a warmer earth. Is warming bad? Well guess what. Every prediction made by scientists has been wrong. Each new prediction has been given a longer due date. We are now working with 2100. Even the temperature point of no return has been passed. No problem. Just raise the temperature point of no return to a higher level. And you call that real science. As far as answering if mankind is better off on a warmer earth, not a subject of interest for science. The advantage that was given to the word “science”. Has been used up. ---
**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/51 "2024-07-13T20:59:55Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > So, what is the AAAS doing to promoting cooperation among scientists to get the science right A lot! AAAS is a large community of scientists from many locations and backgrounds. ![IMG_0300](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/a/7/a7597ccccd0613abb6cd90d74eee5ba3b57d2b8a.png) > [@mikeyohe](#): > > This is not a hard subject to deal with. This is pretty much the hardest subject our species has ever had to handle. You can join AAAS and mention all of your concerns to all of them. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/52 "2024-07-13T21:18:06Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > How many thing can mean Election Interference? What case are you talking about? He falsified business records. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/53 "2024-07-13T21:23:19Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > 4 days ago — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin _Bragg_ and Judge Juan Merchan “worked together to deprive” former President Trump of "his constitutional … You mean, these officials cooperated legally in the name of Justice? What you are saying is like the football team worked together to deprive the other team from winning the game. Can’t you see that you are taking the side of the criminal? **Look at the evidence** That’s what a jury of YOUR peers did and found him guilty! Did the jury “work together to deprive Trump of his constitutional rights?” Get real! ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/54 "2024-07-13T21:24:35Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#): > > Happy learning CC, the climate works in cycles. That is all you are showing. What I have ask you many times before and never get an answer to is do you understand the climate history of Lags and Jumps. As your point that the earth is getting hotter. That just proves what the weatherman told us would happen back in the 1980. The argument seems to be. Yes the earth is getting hotter. But it is getting hotter to fast. And that could be caused by gasses in the air. The problem is that they can’t make the gasses match the heat at a level that a computer model can work with. History shows us earth warms and then gasses rise. Even when earth cools and has high levels of gasses. The gasses has not always been able to keep the earth warm in past history. As the people you called deniers in the past were saying that we have to look at the cycles of earth and sun. And how the clouds operate in the cooling. You were going along with the sun being a constant and the clouds having no affect. Today we know that is not true. The heating wave length of the sun are in cycles. And the clouds have a cooling affect. Now that climate science is following what the deniers were talking about. Does that make you a denier? You always said I disagreed with science. Now that climate science is following the the sun and clouds does that make you disagreeing with science? Or is it a political thing for you? My biggest mistake over the years was to back the ICCP. I thought all the scientists working together would be wonderful. Boy was I wrong. It was my mistake in not understanding that the ICCP is not about what is causing climate change. Its task is to tell the government how to deal with climate change if it should happen. If no climate change, then no need for the ICCP. Global Warming is a natural cycle. If the public can’t tell the difference between Global Warming and Climate Change. Then the ICCP will have a job forever. Everything affects climate. Lawyers are in line waiting to sue deep pockets over climate change. They just need some fact that can be proven. The lawyers keep chipping away. Now if a cow farts they want to be able to sue. EU is taxing cow farts. Remember everything affects climate. You breathing affects climate. Do think you should be taxed to breath? It coming if we don’t take a logical stand. Last week it was so cold in places that sea waves froze in motion. That didn’t make headline news like the heat wave. If the ICCP is only about the affects of Climate Change then who is researching the causes of Climate Change. For example. Neutrinos. The ICCP said fifteen years ago that neutrinos are not matter so they have not affect on climate. Ten years ago neutrinos were proven to be matter. ICCP still does not recognize neutrinos could have a part in climate. Why should they. It is not part of their job. It is the deniers that have an interest in what causes Global Warming and Climate Change. Remember it only takes 10K years to put the earth in the coldest part of an ice age. And 70K years to warm us up again. We are one Climate Jump away from climate reversal. The good news is that Lags are 200 to 400 years long. So, we should have some time before we have a Jump. Also note: The Climate Spiral you posted shows an increase in warmth. The thinking on this is that Hunga Tonga volcano is causing the warmth. The volcano put 150M tons of water really high in the atmosphere. 20M has come down, but the rest is still there. Javier Vinos is done research on this. And it shows that since 1980, 13 years have broken the temperature record. But the 2023 record is extra big. Vinos claims it is caused by the volcano. Sulfate aerosols in the Northern Hemisphere have been found. History shows this also happened in 1815 with Mount Tambora eruption. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/55 "2024-07-13T21:31:28Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > As your point that the earth is getting hotter. That just proves what the weatherman told us would happen back in the 1980. And that makes it unworthy of consideration? Well, we are seeing the results of our neglect today, and the worst is yet to come. Mike, you are preaching ignorance and ignorance has never proved beneficial to your welfare. In fact, “natural selection” tends to punish those who remain ignorant and do not respect natural processes. When ignorance is global, natural selection will punish globally. Get real! ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/56 "2024-07-13T21:34:59Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > Get real! How many state trial cases do you know of that have gotten to the House Floor for constitutional reasons? The House wants the Supreme Court to look at this case. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/57 "2024-07-13T21:41:11Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > Science has given me Chicken Little catastrophic political talk on climate science. It’s actions that count. The scientists say we got until the year 2000. Wait, that did not work. They now say we got into the year 2012 to get this done or we will be past the point of no return. They say they are right this time and there will be nothing we can do to fix the problem. If we pass the deadline without zero carbon in place. The earth is doomed. > > This is not a hard subject to deal with. It is when the stakes are billions of dollars in profits by the people who rape the earth. We have about 40 years of oil left in the world. When we run out, we better have something to keep things running or there will be devastation the likes of which we have never experienced. If you have children, they will experience the END OF OIL! Think about it. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/58 "2024-07-13T21:46:29Z")
> [@mikeyohe](#): > > How many state trial cases do you know of that have gotten to the House Floor for constitutional reasons? Oh you mean there is a difference in what is legal when and where? How convenient. It does not absolve a criminal from prosecution of a crime under federal and/or state law and found guilty by an impartial jury. ---
**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/59 "2024-07-13T21:55:41Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > If you have children, they will experience the END OF OIL! Think about it. 1800’s Whale oil expired. 1700’s Bear fat expired. 1700’s Olive oil expired. 600’s BC Flax seed oil expired. ---
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> [@mikeyohe](#): > > Last week it was so cold in places that sea waves froze in motion. That didn’t make headline news like the heat wave. Inhofe’s snowball all over again. [Previous page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973.md?page=4)