# Republicans continue their march to totalitarianism

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973>\
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues\
**Created:** [July 9, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973 "2024-07-09T16:01:18Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/1 "2024-07-09T16:01:18Z")

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In the elections matter department:

The Thomas Court has made our US Constitution unconstitutional -  
_take that you liberal ba…s!_

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/f/d/fd6b3f448bc0b0533e8f3c6580de915ab5919684.jpeg "'Incoherent' immunity decision renders 'Constitution itself unconstitutional': Akhil Reed Amar") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApRKoa2Kh4s)

> July 7, 2024 [#SCOTUS](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/scotus) [#Trump](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/trump) [#Politics](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/politics)
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> The Supreme Court this week severely undermined the principle that no one is above the law – a bedrock of our nation’s system of government – with its historic ruling declaring that presidents have absolute immunity for their official acts. In her fierce dissent, Justice Sotomayor accused the conservative majority of making the president a “king above the law.”
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> Eminent legal scholar and one of the most cited by SCOTUS, Yale’s Akhil Reed Amar, joins Ali Velshi to discuss the far-reaching implications of this seismic decision. Not mincing words, he calls it “one of the worst decisions in all of constitutional history.” It’s “not just in violation of the Constitution,” says Amar, “but also incoherent.”

> **[Akhil Reed Amar](https://law.yale.edu/akhil-reed-amar)**
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> Akhil Reed Amar is Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University, where he teaches constitutional law in both Yale College and Yale Law School. After graduating from Yale College, summa cum laude, in 1980 and from Yale Law School...

> **[Akhil Reed Amar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhil_Reed_Amar)**
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> Akhil Reed Amar (born September 6, 1958) is an American legal scholar known for his expertise in constitutional law. He holds the position of Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University, where he is a leading scholar of originalism, the U.S. Bill of Rights, and criminal procedure. 
> Raised in California, Amar was an undergraduate in Yale College before receiving his legal education at Yale Law School. He clerked for Judge (later Justice) Stephen Breyer then became a profess...

Gonna be a big election, I hope the internet bots are wrong with their defeatist hysterics.

> **[Dark Money and the Courts: The Right Wing Takeover of the Judiciary | ACS](https://www.acslaw.org/analysis/reports/dark-money/)**
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> This page shares reporting and analysis documenting a secret donor network and the Far Right’s strategy for turning the judiciary into a tool for partisan and corporate interests.

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/2 "2024-07-09T17:32:21Z")

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I think that Biden should exercise that power granted to him by SCOTUS and restore the Constitution.

Use that power to do the right thing instead of destroying the right thing.

It isn’t complicated!

If the maga crowd threatens blood bath unless the Democrats submit to the threat, Biden should make it clear that he is in power and if there is any blood shed it will be the blood of insurrectionists.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/3 "2024-07-09T19:08:22Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> Use that power to do the right thing instead of destroying the right thing.

When in history has a small group gained power using force, then used that power benevolently?

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/4 "2024-07-09T19:31:23Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> When in history has a small group gained power using force, then used that power benevolently?

It has nothing to do with using power per se. It is how that power is used that counts.  
The establishment of the US against a royal British tyranny was a rightful use of power by the fledgling Nation.  
Then writing the Constitution and establishing a Democracy

What we have here is the Republicans trying to reverse the status.  
Biden has the Constitutional right to declare Martial Law against a Domestic threat to the Democracy/

Biden would be using power in defense of the Constitution, not for establishing a dictatorship.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/5 "2024-07-09T19:42:26Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> I think that Biden should exercise that power granted to him by SCOTUS and restore the Constitution.

Should biden do this before or after the elections?

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/6 "2024-07-09T19:44:31Z")

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> [@stateless](#):
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> Should biden do this before or after the elections?

Before, preferably today! …

If Trump wins, it’ll be too late. Dictatorship “From day 1”

NO MORE DEMOCRACY!

Read the Republican 2024 platform

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/7 "2024-07-09T19:45:27Z")

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And what does that exactly mean - restore the constitution?

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/8 "2024-07-09T20:37:12Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> The establishment of the US against a royal British tyranny

And codify slavery into the Constitution. There was discussion at the time, and a structure to support, the move toward greater freedom. They did exactly the opposite until the Civil War.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/9 "2024-07-10T14:23:50Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> Biden would be using power in defense of the Constitution, not for establishing a dictatorship.

Heather Cox Richardson covered this today in her daily letter. The Supreme Court reserved the right, along with lower courts, to determine what is an official act. They will rule in favor of Trump and his successors and against any other President. Their ruling created a nation that is not ruled by laws, it’s ruled by 5 judges and whoever they want to support.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/10 "2024-07-10T15:04:31Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> They will rule in favor of Trump and his successors and against any other President. Their ruling created a nation that is not ruled by laws, it’s ruled by 5 judges and whoever they want to support.

This is still being debated. Once the law has identified what are “official actions”, they apply to all present and future presidents.

Trump’s name will not be on any document. It’ll say “a duly elected president”.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/11 "2024-07-10T18:23:50Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> This is still being debated

That’s what I said originally and you argued. SCOTUS doesn’t debate laws, they take cases. Specifically, Trump can’t be charged for some of his actions in his attempt to overturn the election. No one else is going to test those waters and the Supremes will protect them based on who it is not on some sense of what is just or right.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/12 "2024-07-10T19:41:03Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> Trump’s name will not be on any document. It’ll say “a duly elected president”.

What do you mean by restore the constitution?

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/13 "2024-07-10T20:40:59Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> the Supremes will protect them based on who it is not on some sense of what is just or right.

People are prosecuted for false records under New York law. What they’re not prosecuted for is, for false records covering up a crime under New York law that makes it illegal to violate some unnamed law to influence an election. The SCOTUS is going to ask for clarification of the case and New York does not have one. Trump is the only case this lawfare has ever been use on.

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/14 "2024-07-11T13:20:06Z")

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> [@stateless](#):
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> What do you mean by restore the constitution?

Three co-equal branches of government would be a good start.  
President not being above the law, that would be nice to bring back.  
Supreme Court justices supposed to be wise old persons, above the fray of tooth’n claw politics, that would be very cool.

**But all that needs an informed and engaged electorate** - that’s been the big bugaboo, back in my day we were taught civics and it meant something, what do kids learn these days? Hollywood nation rah rah rah, [keep your hands off of my stash](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW7HweAf3o).

Brutal cynicism is an escape. Even in a world/time as messed up as ours.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/15 "2024-07-11T21:22:28Z")

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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> Three co-equal branches of government would be a good start.

What does that mean ?

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/16 "2024-07-11T21:50:37Z")

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Read the Constitution.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/17 "2024-07-11T21:53:19Z")

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> [@stateless](#):
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> > [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> > Three co-equal branches of government would be a good start.
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> What does that mean ?

> [@write4u](#):
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> Read the Constitution.

So you went to a post Civic’s Class school. That’s a shame, so on top of everything else we have a real generation gap here. 🙁

May I help with that:

> **[Separation of Powers Under the United States Constitution](http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/separationofpowers.htm#:~:text=The%20first%20article%20of%20the,may%20establish.%22)**
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> Cases, notes, questions, and
> images relating to the separation of the powers.

also see

> [Separation of Powers in Action - U.S. v. Alvarez](https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/separation-powers-action-us-v-alvarez#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Constitution%20establishes%20three,branch%20(interprets%20the%20law)).

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/18 "2024-07-11T22:01:17Z")

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Dictatorship is the opposite of separation pf powers.  
Giving a president unlimited power results in Dictatorship.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/19 "2024-07-11T22:12:23Z")

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Equal in what way ? How should it work? How would the last 10 years look any different with what you say requires 3 equal branches of govt?

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-continue-their-march-to-totalitarianism/10973/20 "2024-07-12T00:20:08Z")

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Trump is already practicing dictatorship. He installed his people in responsible positions and they do want he tells them to do .  
1/6 is proof of his trying to halt the lawful process of changed  
separation of powers. The judges he installed in SCOTUS gave him unlimited powers to commit crimes if he wanted to if elected.

Biden does believe in the separation of powers and will not weaponize the justice department against his political rivals.

Perhaps you have noticed that Biden has stayed out of the Trump trials, lest he influenced the fair processor trial by a jury of peers.

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