# Republicans are Now in Control of the Entire Government

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221>\
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues\
**Created:** [November 14, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221 "2024-11-14T04:28:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/1 "2024-11-14T04:28:17Z")

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> **[Republicans Win Control of House, Cementing a G.O.P. Trifecta Under Trump](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/elections/republican-house-trifecta.html)**
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> The party protected vulnerable incumbents and picked off Democrats in competitive districts, handing the president-elect a unified Congress to enact his agenda.

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**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/2 "2024-11-14T06:22:11Z")

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It makes me happy to think that our government is going try and bring the power back to the people.

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**Author:** ![morgankane01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/morgankane01/32/28536_2.png) [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/3 "2024-11-14T06:40:43Z")

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Can you explain to us how this will be ?

the freedoms of the rich are the chains of the poor.

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**Author:** ![mikeyohe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mikeyohe/32/28536_2.png) [@mikeyohe](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mikeyohe)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/4 "2024-11-14T14:51:54Z")

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> [@morgankane01](#):
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> Can you explain to us how this will be ?

Don’t just take my word, just follow what is going on in DC right now.

> [@morgankane01](#):
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> the freedoms of the rich are the chains of the poor.

Nothing stopping you from moving to countries with no rich. What’s your hold up? What is your country of choice?

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/5 "2024-11-14T14:57:07Z")

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> [@mikeyohe](#):
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> Nothing stopping you from moving to countries with no rich. What’s your hold up? What is your country of choice?

Rich people don’t care about borders. They cross them with impunity. The countries without rich people are the ones that have had their resources extracted, by the rich. This has been going on for centuries. Read a book.

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/6 "2024-11-14T15:13:09Z")

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> [@mikeyohe](#):
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> It makes me happy to think that our government is going try and bring the power back to the people.

Are you a useful … .

> [@morgankane01](#):
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> Can you explain to us how this will be ?
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> the freedoms of the rich are the chains of the poor.

> [@mikeyohe](#):
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> Nothing stopping you from moving to countries with no rich. What’s your hold up? What is your country of choice?

Careful, your nazi colors are showing mike.

> Read a book.

Yeah great idea, MAGA _(and hell most Hollywood Dreaming entrapped citizens)_ trying to read serious books and doing some serious introspection, to trying to look outside their own little bubbles of petty ego-centric concerns.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/1/f/1f189ffbf62ba87dbd46bce35322ec7db1f6d10e.jpeg "Man of La Mancha (1972) - The Impossible Dream Scene (6/9) | Movieclips") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo7VlD66ISM)

Life is for dreaming and hoping we can be more than lemmings.  
Greed and gluttony is for destroying all that.

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/7 "2024-11-14T17:42:52Z")

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> [@mikeyohe](#):
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> Nothing stopping you from moving to countries with no rich. What’s your hold up? What is your country of choice?

If presidential candidates can spend a billion dollars on a job application, it seems that there is enough money to go around without everyone becoming poor.

The problem is that too few people make too much money. Unrestricted Capitalism is against Natural law of conservation of energy.

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**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/8 "2024-11-15T03:02:33Z")

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> [@mikeyohe](#):
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> It makes me happy to think that our government is going try and bring the power back to the people.

I like your optimism. Let’s be real though, republicans haven’t been impressive in a long time. The only thing they’ve got going for them is at least they aren’t democrats.

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/9 "2024-11-15T05:14:28Z")

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If we want to think about how we got to this point, here’s a book that can explain it.

It’s a few years old, the writing has been on the wall for a while now.

> **[How America lost its way and ended up at war with itself](https://malwarwickonbooks.com/america-lost-its-way/)**
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> Here is the story of how America lost its way and came to elect a man who rejected democracy itself. For nearly half a century, the broad-based liberal

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**Author:** ![morgankane01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/morgankane01/32/28536_2.png) [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/10 "2024-11-15T07:36:08Z")

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Available in open source 🙂

[Evil geniuses](https://archive.org/details/evil-geniuses-the-unmaking-of-america-kurt-andersen)

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**Author:** ![frankrizzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/frankrizzo/32/23405_2.png) [@frankrizzo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/frankrizzo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/11 "2024-11-15T09:45:48Z")

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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> we want to think about how we got to this point, here’s a book that can explain it.

No thanks . I rather read this new book

 ![IMG_0889](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/9/c/9c1a50c3f38b9f2a2638ecb6e3ee269c5e37c0e4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/12 "2024-11-15T14:11:40Z")

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You’re an odd bird. Sometimes totally out in left field, and sometimes the definition of “narcissism of small differences”

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/13 "2024-11-15T14:34:06Z")

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Ironic indeed.

> # Illegitimate Authority: Facing the Challenges of Our Time
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> ### 
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> [Noam Chomsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky) & [C.J. Polychroniou](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/16623621.C_J_Polychroniou)
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> ‘One of the greatest, most radical public thinkers of our time’ Arundhati RoyIn these incisive interviews, Chomsky addresses the urgent questions of this tumultuous time, speaking to the deterioration of democracy in the United States and rising tensions globally.
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> He examines the crumbling of the social fabric and the fractures of the Biden era, including the halting steps toward a Green New Deal,
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> the illegitimate authority of the Supreme Court,  
> in particular its decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and the ongoing fallout from COVID-19.
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> Chomsky also untangles the roots of the War in Ukraine, the diplomatic tensions among the United States, China, and Russia, and considers the need for climate action on an international scale.
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> Illegitimate Authority exposes those who wield power in their own self-interest and plots framework for how we can stand together and fight against injustice.
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> ‘The West’s most prominent critic of US imperialism . . . the closest thing in the English-speaking world to an intellectual superstar’ Guardian’Will there ever again be a public intellectual who commands the attention of so many across the planet?’ says New Statesman

> **[Noam Chomsky on the responsibility to act against fascism](https://the.ink/p/noam-chomsky-the-responsibility-to-act)**
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> An excerpt from Noam Chomsky's new book, and an interview with editor and coauthor Nathan J. Robinson on countering the threat of Trumpism and the way forward for the left

> … On the other hand, he was one of the people [arguing most strongly with leftists who didn’t want to vote for Biden over Trump](https://the.ink/p/noam-chomsky-wants-you-to-vote-for) because he has described Donald Trump as the worst criminal in human history. And yes, he’s aware of the existence of Adolf Hitler. He says, “Because the climate consequences of the climate catastrophe will be so severe, in fact, the ultimate destruction wrought by Trump could be worse.” So the way he manages to square that is to say, yes, there are strong commonalities in foreign policy, but the marginal differences can actually be quite big in terms of their impact on human beings.
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> **And those impacts are far from marginal. Since** _ **Dobbs** _ **, women have already become second-class citizens in the United States. There’s a deeply fascistic racial basis in all of the policy suggestions that we’ve heard from the Republican side. From a Chomskyan perspective, what is the way forward, for someone who wants to make a political difference, who is concerned that the foreign policy consensus between the parties remains?**

And so on. So says Noam Chomsky.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> So says Noam Chomsky

Interesting interview, a few excerpts

> he’s (Chomsky) not terribly interested in finding out what people’s real motivations are. He’s interested in consequences and he says that we should evaluate actions morally by what their predictable consequences are. Even the worst criminals in human history always have a story about virtue, and it is impossible to know whether they are sincere and well-intentioned.

> On the one hand, Chomsky has been one of the main proponents of the idea that both parties have underlying foundational consensus on a lot of stuff. And the differences between them are often kind of at the margins.

So, what’s the way forward?

> You have to build a different vision of how things could be, one that isn’t based on scapegoating and hatred, but that responds to people’s genuine concerns and fears over the fact that you know their house could get washed away in a hurricane, or they could lose their job, won’t have healthcare.  
> You’ve got to have something that really takes people’s concerns seriously instead of pointing at the Haitians and saying, "This is all their fault.” And that means building a movement. A fundamental building block of what you might call a Chomskyan position is that protests can move governments, or at least can move people who can act within governments. And there had been a lot of moves to limit the ability to protest during the Trump years.  
> And

> The entire point is that it’s your job to criticize your own country. That’s the First Amendment, right? And you’re not even criticizing your country. It’s literally the state. All of these things that we’re talking about are actions by state and sometimes corporate power. It really is just a mistake to even say that it’s a criticism of the country.

IMO, this is how the Republicans took over the working-class vote, they got them to equate an attack on Republicans in government with an attack on the country. At the same time, they equated Democrat policies with an attack on the country. The Democrats did not address it and if anything, they fed into it by attacking policies that gave small gains to those working-class people, policies that help lower-class people and keep working-class people from becoming lower class, but that’s hard for them to see how it benefits them.

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> [@lausten](#):
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> So, what’s the way forward?

Forward for who? Forward in what sense? Forward to whose benefit?

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> [@frankrizzo](#):
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> Forward for who?

> people’s genuine concerns and fears
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> something that really takes people’s concerns seriously instead of pointing at the Haitians and saying, "This is all their fault.”
> 
> the First Amendment

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**Author:** ![frankrizzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/frankrizzo/32/23405_2.png) [@frankrizzo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/frankrizzo)\
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> [@lausten](#):
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> people’s genuine concerns and fears

Which people? Billionaires have genuine concerns

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/18 "2024-11-17T15:30:28Z")

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> [@frankrizzo](#):
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> Which people? Billionaires have genuine concerns

Okay please list them, I can only think of a very few, so help us out.

Oh but before you do, I Ayn Rand one of your guardian angels?  
That would help in the sorting out of those billionaire concerns and fears.

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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> Okay please list them, I can only think of a very few, so help us out.

Friend. There is a thing called google. Its been around for a while and if you type in billionaires in USA you get the following

 ![IMG_0890](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/3/d/3dcd290898aa626748270a8f4c066b548422e672.png)

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/republicans-are-now-in-control-of-the-entire-government/11221/20 "2024-11-18T00:11:57Z")

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> [@frankrizzo](#):
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> Billionaires have genuine concerns

They aren’t concerned about where their next meal is coming from, or if their only home will be lost in a flood.

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