# Religion and secularism

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/religion-and-secularism/4355>\
**Category:** Religion and Secularism\
**Created:** [June 11, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/religion-and-secularism/4355 "2015-06-11T05:33:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![garry420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@garry420](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/garry420)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/religion-and-secularism/4355/1 "2015-06-11T05:33:43Z")

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Whenever and whereever there is religion there can never be secularism.  
either there will pseudo secularism and anti secularism…this is human tendency that they cannot be at point 0 or neutral.  
Now where there is secularism it can never be atheist land or theist land.  
If world is looking for secularism than the gateway is through sanatana dharma.  
Regards

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**Author:** ![loisl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/loisl/32/18_2.png) [@loisl](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/loisl)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/religion-and-secularism/4355/2 "2015-06-12T00:54:57Z")

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> Whenever and whereever there is religion there can never be secularism. either there will pseudo secularism and anti secularism...this is human tendency that they cannot be at point 0 or neutral. Now where there is secularism it can never be atheist land or theist land. If world is looking for secularism than the gateway is through sanatana dharma. Regards

Do you have a clue as to what you are talking about? This is complete gobbledegook.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/religion-and-secularism/4355/3 "2015-06-13T01:14:23Z")

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I love Santana, so I’ll go with that. You almost had something going before that. It is hard to define secularism without saying it’s not the other thing. But I think religion is the thing that is imposed and created. Not believing in something that someone made up would be the neutral position. No child has ever claimed knowledge of a deity that they were not taught about.