# Open Minded Moderators

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767>\
**Category:** CFI Forums Feedback\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767 "2022-08-08T15:39:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/1 "2022-08-08T15:39:06Z")

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Should CFI filter their monitors for volunteers with open minds? I have been attacked and punished with a first notice to ban me for saying their words don’t matter when they post nonsense.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/2 "2022-08-08T20:50:33Z")

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Could you be more specific? We discuss all of our moderation actions and I don’t remember anything about you.

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/3 "2022-08-08T21:47:28Z")

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Lauston, it was Miranda that issued the warning and showed me a full screen red card.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/4 "2022-08-08T22:40:39Z")

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The June 21st moderation was about the language you used, not a disagreement on substance.

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**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/5 "2022-08-08T23:22:45Z")

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> [@pointpath](#):
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> Lauston, it was Miranda that issued the warning and showed me a full screen red card.

1. It’s Mriana. I am not reading you any Miranda rights.

2. the post warning you was blue and not a full screen red card.

3. That was clear back in June so why are you bringing it up now?

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/6 "2022-08-09T14:46:47Z")

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> [@mriana](#):
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> It’s Mriana. I am not reading you any Miranda rights.

😅  
Pointpath, I’m not trying to be a wiseass, I’m am trying to say please do try to give us the benefit of doubt here. We’re engaging with you because you’re interesting and we’re curious (_okay I should just speak for myself_), now it’s up to you to make it worth everyone’s time.

> [@Humanist Trilogy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/humanist-trilogy/9547/128):
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> Seems to me it all depends on motive. Clarification stuff is, the action of making a statement or situation less confused and more comprehensible. Okay, skip that first sentence and consider the rest, Seems quite civil and on point. What’s wrong with that. Lighten up, don’t be so defensive. Do you rather that your, so far, poorly defined ideas (and you) are simply ignored. Seems to me it’s a compliment to be asked to define and defend one’s ideas, how else can you learn? Or for th…

_Peace_🌻

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/7 "2022-08-09T18:45:21Z")

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I am bringing it up now because lauston insinuated a was lying. Which of course I was not. I am still offended by your motherly intrusion.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/8 "2022-08-09T19:26:23Z")

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I said “misinterpreting”. I didn’t say “lying”. When you reflect my words, in a way that’s different from what I meant, i try to straighten that out. I need to do that with you frequently. That’s it.

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**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/9 "2022-08-09T21:52:35Z")

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> [@pointpath](#):
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> I am bringing it up now because lauston insinuated a was lying. Which of course I was not. I am still offended by your motherly intrusion.

As one of the moderators, I am doing my job by responding, not attempting to be a mother to anyone. It’s part of my job to respond when mods are addressed, especially when there has been no warning for a couple months and I was the mod who gave the warning. Lausten has the right to respond too. So it would be appreciated if you would stop disrespecting everyone.

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/10 "2022-08-10T17:10:23Z")

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I heard your words and you know the insinuation was that if Mriana didn’t tell you then I am in error.

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/11 "2022-08-10T17:28:19Z")

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Come on folks, I certainly don’t mind moderators putting their 2 cents worth in. I am complaining about being admonished by a moderator that was blathering and I told her what she was blathering about didn’t matter. So boom she attacks me talking about banning me? I didn’t take it lightly is all.

Both of you please, I will be more tollerant of your comments in topics withideological fault lines.

Let’s just stop this, I have never desired to be disrespectful to anyone. Everyone deserves respect, those that demand respect because of the authority of their position is old time thinking.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/12 "2022-08-10T21:05:41Z")

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> [@pointpath](#):
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> Let’s just stop this, I have never desired to be disrespectful to anyone.

I accept your word on that, but in your apology you used the word “blathering”. I do mentoring and that would not pass. This is not a mentoring relationship, so I won’t explain that any further.

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/13 "2022-08-10T21:33:10Z")

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> [@pointpath](#):
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> because lauston insinuated a was lying.

because lauston insinuated a was lying.

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**Author:** ![pointpath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/pointpath/32/4944_2.png) [@pointpath](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/pointpath)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/14 "2022-08-10T21:39:51Z")

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thank you, the use of the word blathering was in frustration. This is a well-run forum.

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**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/15 "2022-08-11T00:51:49Z")

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> [@pointpath](#):
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> I am complaining about being admonished by a moderator that was blathering and I told her what she was blathering about didn’t matter.

Read the rules and maybe you’ll get it. It does matter, because what I warned you about two months ago was in violation of the rules and yes, I told Lausten when I warned you.

> [@pointpath](#):
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> Let’s just stop this, I have never desired to be disrespectful to anyone.

You started this when you opened the tread. Lausten responded. I was going to ignore you and I had hoped Lausten would too. I’ve only made two posts on it and this makes three. Lausten has made as many posts as you. You’re the one posting multiple posts in a row on it, so it seems to me you are the one hung up about it.

> [@pointpath](#):
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> Everyone deserves respect,

And you’ve not shown any respect, but do read the rules. I think that will clear up a lot of things.

> [@lausten](#):
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> I accept your word on that, but in your apology you used the word “blathering”. I do mentoring and that would not pass. This is not a mentoring relationship, so I won’t explain that any further.

That’s because he has no respect for a woman mod or maybe he has no respect for mods. I don’t know which, or maybe he has no respect for others, unless they think as he does. I also don’t think he’s read the rules either.

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**Author:** ![phillybruce](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/phillybruce/32/18_2.png) [@phillybruce](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/phillybruce)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/16 "2023-01-28T22:51:54Z")

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I think they should be filtered by there critical thinking skills in general.

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/17 "2023-01-28T23:20:51Z")

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> [@phillybruce](#):
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> I think _ **they** _ should be filtered by _ **there** _ critical thinking skills in general.

You may begin by using correct English.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/18 "2023-01-28T23:33:15Z")

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What sort of test would you propose for that? Who would evaluate them? I’m not being sarcastic. I agree we mods should use critical thinking.

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**Author:** ![phillybruce](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/phillybruce/32/18_2.png) [@phillybruce](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/phillybruce)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/20 "2023-01-29T22:59:22Z")

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I know your not being sarcastic. It’s a very good question. There are written tests that are intended to measure critical thinking skills. These are used in teaching environments all the time. But I don’t think that the answer is have critical thinking police patrolling the forum. This should be a place where people can learn these skills as they have fun. I think a culture of promoting these skills along with educational resources would be more appropriate. Critical thinking skills form the tool kit for rational thought. Promoting rational thought is the goal of CFI. Perhaps CFI can provide some of these resources.

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**Author:** ![phillybruce](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/phillybruce/32/18_2.png) [@phillybruce](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/phillybruce)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/open-minded-moderators/9767/21 "2023-01-29T23:11:58Z")

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Again, this is an example of an ad-homonym fallacy. My grammar has nothing to do with my reasoning.

> **[Elements-of-Critical-Thinking-Ray-Hall.pdf](https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/22145718/Elements-of-Critical-Thinking-Ray-Hall.pdf)**
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I do apologies to the members of the forum though. I have sever dyslexia.

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