# Oh, and as for good news . . . There is some if we look far enough

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**Created:** [February 13, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345 "2025-02-13T18:48:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345/1 "2025-02-13T18:48:22Z")

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This is what Good News looks like to me, actions matter.  
Especially actions that nurture natural systems.

_But that requires a psychological moral embrace of Earth and a genuine commitment to her health. Something that seems to me impossible so long as profits and power-lust is all that really matters to the powers that be and their constituents._

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/d/5/d5c90b4f09d770346d8821b8c6ca4bb8476ee916.jpeg "Inside Africa's Food Forest Mega-Project") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbBdIG--b58)

> Nov 13, 2024
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> Permaculture instructor Andrew Millison journeys with the UN World Food Programme to the country of Niger in the African Sahel to see an innovative land recovery project within the Great Green Wall of Africa that is harvesting rainwater, increasing food security, and rehabilitating the ecosystem. WFP Resilience Building: [https://www.wfp.org/resilience-building](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblRfLWR3Rnl1LVdZRTdvRExaUVFxcWEzOEMwd3xBQ3Jtc0tuRTg5NU0yT25RT1dibTdzU01lbWtIM0plUlotMEpqU1BJd0J3dGp6V08zQ2lfX1YzbzhRVVBfN1I0QXVKWW5oUW0wVm5YenoxREZ3M05YN3lCMlp4T2htTVdvZWdfWDl4V08yTmRNZEs0MUtEOUdUYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wfp.org%2Fresilience-building&v=xbBdIG--b58)

Thar Desert in Rajasthan India

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/2/f/2f615cfd78b7d3d51e519b2ed5fbd22545120513.jpeg "How India is Turning its Desert into a Farmland Oasis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7pyGgBmzDY)

> Oct 24, 2024
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> Permaculture Instructor Andrew Millison travels to the Thar Desert in Rajasthan India to see the 40 year water harvesting and community development projects spearheaded by Gramin Vikas Vigyan Samiti (GRAVIS). We spent several days touring the Thar Desert projects of GRAVIS, and found incredible inspiration in the deep resilience of that harsh and dry region.
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> Andrew Millison’s links: [https://www.andrewmillison.com/](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTRtMnkydnhIWVlEaDRfR2ZiMk1kT25Ya3ZnQXxBQ3Jtc0tsNk8tYkNFSGlYM1c0QVRyVzI4cS1paEJaUkhJYmJrTnd6SElUSVFyLVpzMVRjWms0MVBwYmV5WFRzNHlzSjVYbWFPYno2WlB5TkcxZnJjc0p4NlNhUlZIY2VMVGY2b3FkVlVlY1NpVy1zdEptcldhWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.andrewmillison.com%2F&v=F7pyGgBmzDY) [https://permaculturedesign.oregonstat…](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbERNSjMzLXlFWUx2VW5YTy1hM2UtNl9DS0pCZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuUDNmV19qUGdWOThNYThrZHh5b3VSV3h6YUxhbF90Q3puZHI3eS1KTHhUMXJGLXJYZnNsTjF1NmxGRmp0eDVfM01mVDlDalRCQlpabmUyakprNXEwSTNtQ1JONHZTRkNnUG1mWHV0Z3ZDYkJWYm8zZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpermaculturedesign.oregonstate.edu%2F&v=F7pyGgBmzDY)

> # How to Recycle Waste Water Using Plants
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-sRcVkZ9yg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-sRcVkZ9yg)  
> Oct 12, 2021  
> Permaculture instructor Andrew Millison presents on waste water recycling using plants.

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**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345/2 "2025-02-13T18:49:32Z")

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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> But that requires a psychological moral embrace of Earth and a genuine commitment to her health. Something that seems to me impossible so long as profits and power-lust is all that really matters to the powers that be and their constituents.

Lausten, is that sort of statement the problem?

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345/3 "2025-02-13T22:04:17Z")

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First,

> **[Detroit's Greener Side | Detroit Urban Farming | Visit Detroit](https://visitdetroit.com/inside-the-d/urban-farming-detroit/)**
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> Detroit urban farming, urban farms and green spaces are putting Detroit on the map as a green, environmentally-friendly city.

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345/4 "2025-02-14T03:18:09Z")

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> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> But that requires a psychological moral embrace of Earth and a genuine commitment to her health.

100%

> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> Something that seems to me impossible

Low probability, but not impossible. But you probably aren’t being technical here. So, still not a problem.

> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> so long as…

And you add these qualifications and here in are the details where the devil lies. Will the powers continue to lust and continue to win the battles for destroying life and long term commitments to future life?

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 10:06am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/oh-and-as-for-good-news-there-is-some-if-we-look-far-enough/11345/5 "2025-02-14T10:06:31Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> And you add these qualifications and here in are the details where the devil lies. Will the powers continue to lust and continue to win the battles for destroying life and long term commitments to future life?

Problem is we don’t get to choose when it is time for commitment.  
Commitment will be forced on us after it is too late. Witness the natural disasters caused by climate change in the past decade.

> **[The 10 Most Unforgettable Weather Disasters of the 2010s | Weather.com](https://weather.com/news/news/2019-12-04-10-biggest-us-weather-stories-of-the-decade)**
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> There were many big weather events during the last decade. These were the 10 we'll never forget. - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com
