# Liberal vs leftist **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [July 9, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972 "2024-07-09T11:41:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/21 "2024-07-11T14:14:22Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Actually, liberals prefer it without lube. You are now being crude. This is a warning. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/22 "2024-07-12T03:05:08Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > > [@thatoneguy](#): > > > > The reason we made ourselves economically dependent on an unfriendly nation like China is because we are liberal, and liberals like you are fine with that. > > What makes you think the US is economically dependent on any country? > Americans have the most to spend and don’t just support the US economy but the economy of other countries as well. > That does not make the US dependent, it makes that other country dependent on the US economy. How is that alternate reality you’re living in? ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/23 "2024-07-12T05:24:29Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > How is that alternate reality you’re living in? **In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries:** 1. [Ukraine](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/ukraine/) ($16.4 billion) 2. Israel ($3.3 billion) 3. [Ethiopia](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/ethiopia/) ($1.95 billion) 4. Jordan ($1.65 billion) 5. Egypt ($1.43 billion) 6. [Afghanistan](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/afghanistan/) ($1.19 billion) 7. [Somalia](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/somalia/) ($1.13 billion) 8. Yemen ($1.05 billion) 9. Congo ($987 million) 10. [Syria](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/syria/) ($896 million) more… [Homepage | Concern Worldwide](https://concernusa.org/news/foreign-aid-by-country/)? Not enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![stateless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/stateless/32/24073_2.png) [@stateless](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/stateless)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/24 "2024-07-12T05:28:23Z")
What sort of aid 4 U?? ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/25 "2024-07-12T05:38:28Z")
This counts as an ad hominem. The nom de plume is “write4u”. I provided a link. It is illegal to copy articles in their entirety. But it seems those small details don’t mean much to you, do they? btw. what exactly caused you to become “stateless”, stateless? Are you unwelcome in your native country? ---
**Author:** ![stateless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/stateless/32/24073_2.png) [@stateless](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/stateless)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 6:41am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/26 "2024-07-12T06:41:28Z")
How come you dont vet your links before you post?? ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/27 "2024-07-12T12:07:42Z")
If you can provide better links you are welcome to do so. Then we can vet your links. Make no demands which you do not follow yourself. At least I post links. You don’t. ---
**Author:** ![stateless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/stateless/32/24073_2.png) [@stateless](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/stateless)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/28 "2024-07-12T12:20:30Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > you can provide better links you are welcome to do so. Then we can vet your links. Are all your links like that? ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/29 "2024-07-13T06:05:32Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > > [@thatoneguy](#): > > > > How is that alternate reality you’re living in? > > **In 2023, the United States spent nearly $61 billion on foreign aid. Fully half of that budget has gone to just ten countries:** > > 1. [Ukraine](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/ukraine/) ($16.4 billion) > 2. Israel ($3.3 billion) > 3. [Ethiopia](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/ethiopia/) ($1.95 billion) > 4. Jordan ($1.65 billion) > 5. Egypt ($1.43 billion) > 6. [Afghanistan](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/afghanistan/) ($1.19 billion) > 7. [Somalia](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/somalia/) ($1.13 billion) > 8. Yemen ($1.05 billion) > 9. Congo ($987 million) > 10. [Syria](https://concernusa.org/where-we-work/syria/) ($896 million) > > more… [Homepage | Concern Worldwide](https://concernusa.org/news/foreign-aid-by-country/)? > > Not enough for you? That would be a great list if we were discussing foreign aid. ---
**Author:** ![stateless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/stateless/32/24073_2.png) [@stateless](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/stateless)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/30 "2024-07-13T06:36:47Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > That would be a great list if we were discussing foreign aid. Yes , He didnt check for this before posting ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972/31 "2024-07-13T07:09:26Z")
I see, You can’t argue a distinct difference Humanitarian perspective between the two concepts, so you resort to “foul play”. It is a great list under any discussion of political positions. [Previous page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/liberal-vs-leftist/10972.md?page=1)