# Israel Launches Attack on Iran

**URL:** <https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793>\
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues\
**Created:** [April 20, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793 "2024-04-20T01:47:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/1 "2024-04-20T01:47:54Z")

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> **[Israel strikes Iran with a missile, U.S. officials say, as Tehran downplays...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-iran-missile-strikes/)**
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> Two U.S. officials tell CBS News an Israeli missile has hit Iran in apparent retaliation for the recent drone and missile attack​ on the Jewish state.

Israel is reporting their strike did very little damage, so far. Iran hasn’t really said anything. Both sides are liars so who knows?

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/2 "2024-04-20T02:03:35Z")

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Fog of war. But what is certain is that Israel is escalating the conflict with support from Biden.

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/3 "2024-04-20T10:49:39Z")

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Mohammad Marandi absolutely wipes the floor with Piers Morgan and his October 7 hasbara bullshit. This segment is getting a ton of exposure on social media and lots of comments along the lines of “I’ve never seen someone get completely dismantled so badly on their own show”. Fantastic watching !

> <https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1781548907203371165>

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**Author:** ![morgankane01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/morgankane01/32/28536_2.png) [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/4 "2024-04-20T12:07:24Z")

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A short summing up 😀

Israël strikes Iranian consulate, Iran strikes Israël, vainly, Israël strikes Iran, vainly.

Every one has played its part and nobody wants a escalation of the conflict.

I hope …

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/5 "2024-04-20T12:11:34Z")

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Too short.

Interesting about the discarded Israeli missile segment found in Iraq. That might help explain why both Iran and Israel are silent.

Any other report I’ve seen so far only mentions small drones. Maybe Israel tried to emulate Iran’s multi-modal attack with drones and missiles, but it fell flat when all Israel’s ballistic missiles were shot down by Iran. In such cases, Israel with its tail between its legs in shame, would be strongly motivated to keep silent. As for Iran - they are adults, and unlike Israel they are more interested in strategic gains than childish propaganda. Since they have consistently claimed to want to avoid escalation, it is plausible that they cast alleged (pretty implausible in my view) doubt on the identity of the perpetrators (a) to have an excuse not to have to respond, and (b) to minimise overall escalation. In such case keeping silent on having shot down the Israeli ballistic missiles, both Iran and Israel know the true score, that’s a massive strategic victory for Iran compounding her earlier victory. If true, Iran successfully penetrated Israel’s defences even with prior warnings and massive support from other countries, while Israel failed to penetrate Iran’s defences at all (the small drones being regarded in this argument as mere decoys for the ballistic missiles and insignificant on their own). Iran also scored very significant international Brownie Points as adult in the room for remaining silent about shooting down the Israeli missiles to evade escalation - that’s a beneficial boomerang that will come back to support Iran later when she needs to escalate.

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/6 "2024-04-20T23:45:59Z")

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The west are a bunch of lunatics with biden its leader . Israel is prepared to take the whole world down with her.

Pepe Escobar  
@RealPepeEscobar  
EXCLUSIVE

THE REAL STORY OF THE ISRAELI COUNTER RESPONSE

From a very high level intel source.  
In Asia.  
NOT Russia-China.  
Although the strategic partnership, of course, exchanges at the highest level 24-7.

Confirmed and re-confirmed.

It will be great to know what Sy Hersh hears from his Beltway sources.

Here we go.

Israel initially chose to respond with extreme force.  
An F-35 loaded with a nuclear bomb was sent east over Jordan.  
The mission: cause a high-altitude detonation over Iran that would provoke a surge in the high-capacity power lines, crippling Iran’s electric grid, as well as disabling all electronic devices.  
An EMP attack.

However…

… As the Israeli F-35 was leaving Jordanian airspace it was shot down by the Russian Air Force.  
Hence the publicised version of the Israeli counter response was such a travesty.  
In the end all sides decided not to publicise the real news - to de-escalate what could well turn into WWIII.  
12:51 PM · Apr 20, 2024

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/7 "2024-04-21T00:14:49Z")

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> [@dadada](#):
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> Confirmed and re-confirmed.

By whom? How do I confirm the confirmation?

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/8 "2024-04-21T00:26:20Z")

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And it was being trailed in press as a possibility beforehand nm

> **[Israel could debut deadly 'EMP bombs' that destroy electricity if Iran attacks](https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1885820/israel-emp-bombs-iran-war)**
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> Israel could debut deadly Elector Magnetic Pulse bombs on Iran in retaliation if the latter launches an attack in the next few days, a security expert has claimed

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/9 "2024-04-21T02:13:20Z")

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> [@dadada](#):
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> being trailed in press

Do you have one of those garages with a wall of articles on it, connected with pins and yarn?

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/10 "2024-04-21T08:33:05Z")

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Times of Israel reporting that US has authorized Israel to assault Rafah as part of an agreement on Israel’s strike on Iran.

Anyone still denying its genocide joe?

> **[US agreed to Israel’s plan for Rafah in return for not carrying out large...](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-agreed-to-israels-plan-for-rafah-in-return-for-not-carrying-out-large-iran-strike-report/)**
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**Author:** ![daniel4spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/11 "2024-04-21T22:23:38Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> Do you have one of those garages with a wall of articles on it, connected with pins and yarn?

Its difficult for you to connect events between israel and iran? Try some mental stimulation and memory exercises. It may help

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**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/12 "2024-04-21T22:36:30Z")

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Oh snap. Got me there

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**Author:** ![daniel4spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/13 "2024-04-21T22:38:27Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> Got me there

Iran and israel at war or at least building towards a full scale war by any chance?

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/14 "2024-04-22T02:08:43Z")

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> The Iran–Israel proxy conflict, also known as the **Iran–Israel proxy war** [40] or Iran–Israel Cold War,[41] is an ongoing proxy conflict between Iran and Israel.

> **In the Israeli–Lebanese conflict, Iran has supported Lebanese Shia militias, most notably Hezbollah.**

> **In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Iran has backed Palestinian groups such as Hamas.**

> Israel has supported Iranian rebels, such as the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, conducted airstrikes against Iranian allies in Syria and assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists.  
> **In 2018 Israeli forces directly attacked Iranian forces in Syria.[42]**

> Israel sees Iran as an existential threat, and accuses its regime of harboring genocidal intentions. Consequently, Israel has sought sanctions and military action against Iran to stop it from acquiring nuclear weapons.

> **[Iran–Israel proxy conflict](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict#)**
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> Ongoing:
>  Iran
>  Israel

Who is afraid of the other?  
Is giant Iran afraid of a tiny Israel invasion or is tiny Israel afraid of a giant Iran sponsored invasion by a cadre of Muslim nationalists?

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**Author:** ![daniel4spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/15 "2024-04-22T02:29:56Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> Who is afraid of the other?  
> Is giant Iran afraid of a tiny Israel invasion or is tiny Israel afraid of a giant Iran sponsored invasion by a cadre of Muslim nationalists?

Who has the nuclear weapons? Who has the backing of the high and mighty USA?

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**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/16 "2024-04-22T02:59:20Z")

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> [@daniel4spain](#):
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> Who has the nuclear weapons? Who has the backing of the high and mighty USA?

Yes, nuclear weapons is what keep Israel safe from total war. Everybody knows they have them and they haven’t needed to use them yet. Nuclear weapons are a deterrent.

Nobody messes with a hornet’s nest. The price of being stung is not worth the effort.

OTOH, Israel may engage in personal assassination, but that is a selective type of warfare and does not affect civilians.

> Power in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, the so-called Palestinian territories, has been divided among three entities: a governing body called the Palestinian Authority, the militant group Hamas, and the state of Israel. Mar 19, 2024  
> [Who Governs the Palestinians? | Council on Foreign Relations](https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/who-governs-palestinians#)

The attack by Hamas was an official Iranian-Palestinian-approved attack on Israel.  
Palestine is now paying the price for messing with a hornet’s nest!  
And Iran has been warned to “leave the hornet’s nest at peace” or bad things will happen.

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**Author:** ![daniel4spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@daniel4spain](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/daniel4spain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/17 "2024-04-22T06:49:04Z")

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> [@write4u](#):
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> Yes, nuclear weapons is what keep Israel safe from total war. E

Therefore israel is the goliath

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/18 "2024-04-22T07:38:12Z")

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> [@daniel4spain](#):
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> Therefore israel is the goliath

Yes, but they don’t start these Iran sponsored attacks. All they need to do is show they can bomb Iran anytime they wish, but in a gesture of goodwill they "choose"not to inflict any civilian damage.

Note that the target of that warning strike was against a military target.  
Unlike Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel followed the rules of war and self-defense.

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**Author:** ![dadada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@dadada](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/dadada)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/19 "2024-04-22T08:45:03Z")

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You havent caught up with the latest

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/israel-launches-attack-on-iran/10793/20 "2024-04-22T09:05:01Z")

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> [@dadada](#):
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> But what is certain is that Israel is escalating the conflict with support from Biden.

In defensive response to an Iranian attack. Israel never starts these skirmishes, but they will finish them as is allowed under rules of war.

You just don’t get it, do you?  
It is you who is “unjustly” justifying continued attacks on Israel and denying them the right to self-defense. You’re on the wrong side of this centuries-old theological battle.

Israel, as a nation, has a right to a homeland. Learn to live with it!

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