(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P Yeah. I'm about 50/50 on him being real anymore. He is stuck on "it's just", or as in this last one "chemicals are behind the whole thing", despite the "two sides of the coin analogy" that Sam gave. It let's him feel like he knows more than others, and lets him off the hook for responsibility of this actions.
It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him.You gotta admit, when you get right down to it T is right: life is ultimately pointless. We live in a cold, impersonal universe that is trying to kill us, and when the human species dies out no one will know about us unless by some incredible cosmic coincident one of our space probes runs across an alien civilization's solar system. I'll have better odds playing Lois' lottery numbers. But the vast majority of us privileged enough to live in the most prosperous society in history realize how lucky we are just to be alive and able to contemplate the universe, much less live in a time when we have the wealth and spare time to argue the meaninglessness of life on this thing called the internet. Other whine about it and reject all our reasons for finding joy in life. I'd suggest T get a puppy, but I love dogs and wouldn't want to see one suffer with him. He should take his own advice and move to Ethiopia or some such place where he'd have to struggle daily just to survive, but I doubt he has the courage to do so. Whining in his cozy home is much more comfortable than flowing through on his beliefs.
That wouldn't be my beliefs that would be yours. But it's as you said, it's meaningless either way. Maybe if I had been born there I would be too distracted to have learned about this whole situation that our existence is. It would certainly make life easier. But when you have no distractions left you are forced to face the reality of our lives.It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him.You gotta admit, when you get right down to it T is right: life is ultimately pointless. We live in a cold, impersonal universe that is trying to kill us, and when the human species dies out no one will know about us unless by some incredible cosmic coincident one of our space probes runs across an alien civilization's solar system. I'll have better odds playing Lois' lottery numbers. But the vast majority of us privileged enough to live in the most prosperous society in history realize how lucky we are just to be alive and able to contemplate the universe, much less live in a time when we have the wealth and spare time to argue the meaninglessness of life on this thing called the internet. Other whine about it and reject all our reasons for finding joy in life. I'd suggest T get a puppy, but I love dogs and wouldn't want to see one suffer with him. He should take his own advice and move to Ethiopia or some such place where he'd have to struggle daily just to survive, but I doubt he has the courage to do so. Whining in his cozy home is much more comfortable than flowing through on his beliefs.
(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P Yeah. I'm about 50/50 on him being real anymore. He is stuck on "it's just", or as in this last one "chemicals are behind the whole thing", despite the "two sides of the coin analogy" that Sam gave. It let's him feel like he knows more than others, and lets him off the hook for responsibility of this actions. You are incorrect once again. I saw his analogy but it doesn't apply to the chemicals that cause emotions. So far there is no proof that people feel differently than the chemicals flowing through them are causing so his entire argument falls flat. I was hoping it wouldn't though so I could get past this, but like the others they just don't seem to measure up. It's got nothing to do with responsibility for actions but more with making life seem pointless to live. So far nothing has been able to triumph over the "it's only chemicals or you are a bag of neurons". I'm wondering if that guy even heard the words coming out of his mouth and truly believed they were a good counter argument.
(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned.
That wouldn't be my beliefs that would be yours. But it's as you said, it's meaningless either way. Maybe if I had been born there I would be too distracted to have learned about this whole situation that our existence is. It would certainly make life easier. But when you have no distractions left you are forced to face the reality of our lives.You're the one who said you'd be better off if you lived in a country where living from day-to-day was a struggle, as that would give your life meaning. Were you lying about that or are you too cowardly to act on your beliefs?
(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned. Good line. Right back at ya. It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned from a life time of paying attention to the world around me.
That wouldn't be my beliefs that would be yours. But it's as you said, it's meaningless either way. Maybe if I had been born there I would be too distracted to have learned about this whole situation that our existence is. It would certainly make life easier. But when you have no distractions left you are forced to face the reality of our lives.You're the one who said you'd be better off if you lived in a country where living from day-to-day was a struggle, as that would give your life meaning. Were you lying about that or are you too cowardly to act on your beliefs? I'm saying if I had been the. I wouldn't have been exposed to the knowledge I have and would haves believed in meaning.
(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned. Good line. Right back at ya. It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned from a life time of paying attention to the world around me. It could be that you are naive. That you are just fooling yourself and ignoring the information in order to cope with the nature of our existence.
(It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )It's not avoidance, it's just that what you guys have said so far doesn't defeat what I have learned. :lol: It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. Lets play a game and resend this forever. I'm sure that'll convince you ;-P It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned. Good line. Right back at ya. It's telling that you honestly think your words are stronger than what I have learned from a life time of paying attention to the world around me. It could be that you are naive. That you are just fooling yourself and ignoring the information in order to cope with the nature of our existence. Said the guy who ignores his feelings.
You guys still messin’ with the Tit? I told him the answer already. Get a girlfriend or boyfriend, whichever. SHort of that get a kitten. Yes, get a kitten, raise it a couple months, then report back. The rest is just yapping.
I saw a cheesy sci-fi movie on Netflix, Equilibrium, 2002. After the nuclear apocalypse, leaders determined the problem was emotions, so everyone had to take emotion suppressing pills every morning. They enforced it by indoctrinating the kids and getting them to police their families. Of course there was resistance. There was cross over with the police, where the people in charge of them were called priests, and one of those guys decided to stop taking the pills, he read something from a raid or something (yes, very much like Farenheit 451).
Anyway, they raid a little community out in the country, and they have puppies, a kennel full of them. The goon squad has no idea why they would have puppies. They are arguing about what to do with them, kill them most likely, when one of them picks up a puppy and sticks it in the priest/policeman’s face, asking “what do we do with it?”. His heart melts for the little guy, but he has to hold it together and pretend like he feels nothing. He says he’ll deal with it and hides it in his trunk, then releases it later, almost getting caught in the process. Pretty good comic relief.
You guys still messin' with the Tit? I told him the answer already. Get a girlfriend or boyfriend, whichever. SHort of that get a kitten. Yes, get a kitten, raise it a couple months, then report back. The rest is just yapping.Pretty sure I shut that weak advice a few posts ago.
Pretty sure I shut that weak advice a few posts ago.The only things you have shut are your emotions. Answer my question. Were you lying about moving to a region where living from day-to-day is a struggle so you can give your life some meaning, or are you too cowardly to act on your beliefs?
Pretty sure I shut that weak advice a few posts ago.The only things you have shut are your emotions. Answer my question. Were you lying about moving to a region where living from day-to-day is a struggle so you can give your life some meaning, or are you too cowardly to act on your beliefs? Incorrect. But no o wasn't lying. However I did say if I had been born in such a place then it would be easier because I could still believe in meaning. But it's too late for that option to work. I can't forget what I know.
Because when your needs are all met you have time to think and the more you think the more you begin to see how bleak our existence tends to be.
Life means nothing, still a funny thing happened to me today. Was walking Maddy, clipped her to a fence to get on top of a berm of an irrigation ditch to check out something, it was a really brushy area and didn't want to deal with her on a line. Coming back I circle around the brush still on top of berm, when I come she's at the bottom of the berm looking that way, not noticing I'd come around. I gave my little signature whoop, she turn around sees me, with that certain relief of connecting again. Then suddenly, I mean her eyes double in size along with her whole face muscles pulling back. Since her gaze went over my head, I looked to behold a big hawk swooping in to land on a branch on the top of a nearby tree I was facing. I spend a bit of time soaking in this wonder and watching the hawk. Most the pictures you've seen of Hawks is probably with them majestically at the top most branch. Thing is in the real world, trees don't alway cooperate, and Hawks can be found within foliage that won't hold their weight. So it was in this case, after a couple minutes during which I didn't move and Maddy was still on the fence just watching me, as I was watching this hawking glorying in the luck and choices that this lil chicago kid lived that brought me to this point. In other words, on the glory and wonder of the whole pointless spectacle. Then something happen I'd never completely observed before. This hawk, literally stepped off the branch, as it started flapping wings, and ascending vertically, like a freak'n helicopter at least two feet before, kicking it into horizontal flight. Amazing and wonderful, though it don't mean a damned thing to any human, or anything else for that matter. That's why I think it's so important to appreciate the utter uniqueness of this thing called life - and being this pinnacle of sentient awareness and wonder. You may think it's fine to ignore and dismiss those. I enjoy reveling in them... But in the end these are all personal beliefs and have no bearing on universal truths. (It is telling that T can't respond with more that trite one-liners - and avoidance, ignoring most that's been shared with him. )Because what you have said doesn't defeat nihilism.
Because what you have said doesn't defeat nihilism.Guess not. But, it is wonderful way to spend the one life I've been offered.
And I tell you remembering Maddy change her express to utter shock and the shifting her gaze those few feet over my head, then looking up and seeing these huge wings right over head.
You’d a shit your pants my pal.
It was awesome.
Then that take off, hell almost as cool as watching the Curiosity] land.
Nihilism (/ˈnaɪ.ᵻlɪzəm/ or /ˈni.ᵻlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1] Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist. The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws.[2] Movements such as Futurism and deconstruction,[3] among others, have been identified by commentators[4] as "nihilistic". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NihilismI wouldn't know how to defeat something like that, I've got more immediate problems requiring my attention. Though I'm pretty sure, hopeless is as hopeless does. But, I'm also pretty sure, that's not you. You're too busy pounding away at your keyboard and trying to get other people to interact with you. You got something else going on there, me thinks this is more a put-on, than the real you. But it's conversation and I don't even need to pay for your beer. :cheese: