Looking forward to your two answers for the 11th time. --will
thanks for keeping count. It will make it easier when I ban you from this forum. I will just look at that count and say "Will repeated himself 11 times, violating the rule against repetitious posting."
Have you noticed that no one cares about your thread anymore? Maybe it’s time to move on and find new victims elsewhere? If it makes you happy, I could declare that you won this thread and give you a prize.
11 times in a row I have been asking one and same simple questions and 11 times in a row the "top-experts" here in this forum have been avoiding to answer and have been keeping deep silence. Why? Because whatever values to choose for V2 and for V3 the result will be always one and same. And this result will be a violation of the law of conservation of mechanical energy and/or a violation of the law of conservation of linear momentum. Simple and clear.
Why don't you ask personally @citizenschallengev3 (and the other"top-experts" here in this forum) to give you two certain definite numerical values (meters per second) for V2 and for V3, respectively? Only two numbers. V2 = how many meters per second? V3 = how many meters per second? We are all searching honestly for the truth, aren't we?
@will34ab maybe no one has the answers or the answers you want. I can’t see how there would be any legal violation if someone did know the answer and told people. Seeking and getting info is not illegal.
Thanks for the promotion. We're just a few random people from the internet. This is not a panel of experts.
Why? Because whatever values to choose for V2 and for V3 the result will be always one and same.
OMG, you actually got to the point. Well, how you can keep taunting us now that you told us what you wanted to say? I hope you understand this sarcasm. I'm pointing out the childishness of the game you are playing.
And here’s the question that every reasonable forum participant who has ever lived wants to know; If you can prove the law of conversation of energy is incorrect, what are you doing on a little forum on the edge of the internet, throwing a tantrum about it. I don’t think that’s how scientists act. Funny thing, if you use the main menu here, the good people at CFI have a way of taking ideas like this and responding to them. I’ve never done it, so don’t know exactly how it works, but I know they have looked at people’s “experiments” and given scientific responses.
I didn’t know I asked a question. I was referring to those who are more interested in this thread than I am.
then please ask your next questions.
What was my first question that I never asked?
I will say this: This thread has far too many numbers for someone who has dyscalculia (AKA numbers dyslexia). All your numbers are all over the place, so as a moderator, I’m just making sure the thread stays civil.
Thank you for your post of June 11, 2021 at 2:57 pm. It is reasonable and smart. Please give me some time to consider it carefully. I will write to you in the nearest future.
… And, I don’t get the purpose of the two tubes for each apparatus. Can’t you do the same experiment with just one straight tube, and one zig-zag tube?
First of all my respect again to your high qualification in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics! You are obviously an expert! We (our team) are deeply impressed by your knowledge and expertise!
And here are our explanations according to your requirements. We accept your approach with some slight modifications.
Va’ = pre-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = 1 m/s = const.
Vb’ = pre-zig-zag velocity of the black component = 0 m/s; the black component is motionless.
Va" = during-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
Vb" = during-zig-zag velocity of the black component = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
Vy = during-zig-zag velocity of each couple blue rod-blue ball along the Y-axis = variable and comparatively difficult (but not impossible) to calculate.
Va’‘’ = post-zig-zag velocity of the blue component = 0.6 m/s = const.
Vb’‘’ = post-zig-zag velocity of the black component = 0.1 m/s = const.
According to the third Newton’s law and to the related law of conservation of linear momentum we can write down the equalities
((Ma) x (Va’)) + ((Mb) x (Vb’)) = ((Ma) x (Va’‘’)) + ((Mb) x (Vb’‘’)) <=>
<=> ((Ma) x (Va’)) + 0 = ((Ma) x (Va’‘’)) + ((Mb) x (Vb’‘’)) <=>
<=> (Ma) x (Va’) = ((Ma) x (Va’‘’)) + ((Mb) x (Vb’‘’)) <=>
<=> (1 kg) x (1 m/s) = ((1 kg) x (0.6 m/s)) + ((4 kg) x (0.1 m/s)) <=>
<=> 1 kg.m/s = 1 kg.m/s.
In one word, the values of Va", Vb" and Vy are actually of no interest to us. Actually only the values of Va’, Va’‘’ and Vb’‘’ are of interest to us as these three values determine the validity of the third Newton’s law and the related law of conservation of linear momentum.
You wrote: “…take gravity and friction out of equation and consideration…”. Perfectly agree with this.
The mass of each couple blue rod-blue ball is much smaller than the mass of the blue T-shaped component. For example if Ma = 1 kg, then the mass of each couple blue rod-blue ball must be equal to, let’s say, 0.0001 kg (and even smaller).
In our numerous real experiments we strongly reduce friction and the mean values of Va’‘’ and Vb’‘’ are equal to 0.5999992 m/s and to 0.0999997 m/s, respectively, that is, Va’‘’ = 0.5999992 m/s and Vb’‘’ = 0.0999997 m/s. The latter clearly shows that the experimental error (due to friction) is much smaller than 1 % and this experimental error is perfectly acceptable.
Looking forward to your comments.
P.S. Welcome to our team! (Not pressing, only suggesting. But we (our team) really need young and qualified people like you.)
13) You wrote: “…take gravity and friction out of equation and consideration…”. Perfectly agree with this.
So basically this is just, shall we say this has been a philosophical journey into other dimensions, and not related to this physical reality we exist within. After all, friction and gravity may be the enemies of simple math formulas, but they are something you and I, or any living person, will never get away from.
Hmmm, seems that ignoring “gravity and friction” is simply a “trick” in every sense of the word? Or?
@mrmhead. Reality is relatively subjective … but that’s another topic ?
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