# Hey, politicians have always lied, just another day in the park. Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [October 18, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174 "2024-10-18T15:27:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![peterm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/peterm/32/26258_2.png) [@peterm](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/peterm)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/1 "2024-10-18T15:27:58Z")
When is lying justified? everyone does it all the time, don’t they? Repeat lies long enough and the lies get accepted. So isn’t it an obligation for patriots to expose the lies? How bad is the problem, is it any different than it ever was? I don’t have the answers and no one care’s about my opinion anyways, so I’ll simply share an interview I heard this morning with the founder of PoliticFact and I believe his thoughts do carry enough weight they deserve to be shared. ============== # PolitiFact Founder Explains the “Epidemic of Lying” in American Politics [Amanpour and Company](https://www.youtube.com/@AmanpourandCompany) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/f/4/f4c18366aecc7d74867dbea964ac08b4e40e9dab.jpeg "PolitiFact Founder Explains the “Epidemic of Lying” in American Politics | Amanpour and Company") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkl2NoEznqA) > Oct 16, 2024 [#amanpourpbs](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/amanpourpbs) - [Amanpour and Company](https://www.youtube.com/@AmanpourandCompany) > > As Americans gear up for the election, Bill Adair warns of an “epidemic of lying” in U.S. politics – particularly within the Republican Party. Adair joins the show to discuss his new book “Beyond the Lie.” As founder of the fact-checking website PolitiFact, Adair is well placed to account for where disinformation comes from, how it spreads and the danger it poses to democracy. ---
**Author:** ![coffee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/coffee/32/28536_2.png) [@coffee](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/coffee)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/2 "2024-10-18T16:29:42Z")
My opinion is equal to yours. Not worth much. 😂 But our values are the same. In my not worth much opinion, the root of our downfall can be traced to the Tea Party movement and Faux News. Faux News being the result of the fall of the Fairness doctrine and our love of free speech. That allowed the Glen Becks, Rush Limbaughs, Sean Hannitys, and all the rest. Our population seems to have been overtaken by anger and stupidity. A bumper sticker society. ![IMG_0007](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/6/e/6edf20d5a15d0f4358305165db6b11ae8c088c7e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![frankrizzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/frankrizzo/32/23405_2.png) [@frankrizzo](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/frankrizzo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/3 "2024-10-18T22:16:29Z")
Amanpour and company are very much in the lying game masquerading as journalists ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/4 "2024-10-19T02:00:36Z")
> [@peterm](#): > > Amanpo Got any fact-check lists on that? Any lies you can point to at all? ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/5 "2024-10-19T06:46:47Z")
> [@frankrizzo](#): > > Amanpour and company are very much in the lying game masquerading as journalists I suspect that observation is in error from ignorance or a lie with a purpose! This woman is one of the few honest reporters left and only reports from personal observation rather than unconfirmed rumor. You may want to do a little study on the subject before you slander a person with a record of the highest ethics in news reporting. # Q&A; WITH CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR : On Life Near Death: In Bosnia for CNN > **[Q&A; WITH CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR : On Life Near Death: In Bosnia for CNN](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-07-14-ca-13112-story.html)** > > CNN correspondent Christiane Amanpour has been covering the brutal war in Bosnia-Herzegovina for most of the past year. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/6 "2024-10-23T02:10:00Z")
Politicians have always lied. The difference is today’s politicians are just not as good at it, and the public is much less naive than it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![morgankane01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/morgankane01/32/28536_2.png) [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/7 "2024-10-23T06:46:55Z")
Objection, your honor !!! For me nowadays, some politicians as Trump, but he is not the only one, lie more brazenly than their predecessors, inventing anything, and are nevertheless believed. 2/3 of Trump voters believe that Haitians migrants eat the cats and the dogs of the " good US citizens" [Opinions about the attack against the Capitol](https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2024/01/02/poll-on-third-anniversary-of-jan--6-attack) ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/hey-politicians-have-always-lied-just-another-day-in-the-park-really/11174/8 "2024-10-24T02:13:01Z")
One of Trump’s biggest faults is he is not a good liar at all. In politics there are different levels of true and false, but yes, in the end we will believe what we want to believe.