# GOP viciousness reaches new heights - Right Wing Extremist SCOTUS declares war on women
**URL:** https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues
**Created:** [May 3, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418 "2022-05-03T15:43:35Z")
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### Author:  [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/21 "2022-05-04T18:13:20Z")
In Poland, they have strongly restricted the right to abortion. Women die.
What is interesting is that, at the beginning, there was a decision from the Polish constitutional court;,
[[Poland: Regression on abortion access harms women - Amnesty International](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/01/poland-regression-on-abortion-access-harms-women/)]
**From my sister in law, a doctor !!!**
I’m not pro-murdering babies.
I’m pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I’m pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I’m pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.
I’m pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn’t mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.
I’m pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I’m pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I’m pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I’m pro-Courtney who just found out she’s already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I’m pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I’m pro-life.
Their lives.
Women’s lives.
You don’t get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted.
It’s not about which stories you don’t agree with. It’s about fighting for the women in the stories that you do agree with and the CHOICE that was made.
Women’s rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
[#RoeVsWade #prochoice #abortion #women #womensrights #mybody #mychoice]
[#mybodymychoice #prochoiceisprolife #mindyouruterus]
[#notyourbodynotyourchoice #AbortionIsHealthcare#abortionisawomansright]
[#isupporttherighttochoose]
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/22 "2022-05-05T01:43:38Z")
> [@lausten](#):
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> True, but I think we had control of that fringe. The corporate wing of the party has been promising this to them for decades, but I didn’t think they’d ever get it. I keep hoping their strategy will backfire, but apathy and a lack of leadership on the Left help keep it rolling on.
We don’t have control of that group. Even so I’m hoping it backfires too.
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/23 "2022-05-05T02:20:53Z")
> [@mriana](#):
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> We don’t have control of that group.
We don’t have their votes. That’s what I meant. I think in the 70’s we were getting to where racism and religion were seen as bad, and those who wanted it still knew they were in a minority or would soon be one. I think we could have put guardrails on that if we would have dealt with the situation better. But we both made fun of them, and expected they would just roll over and fade away. That left them available to be manipulated and to be built into a motivated voting block.
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### Author:  [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/24 "2022-05-05T02:23:18Z")
> [@mriana](#):
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> > [@thatoneguy](#):
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> > I mean the news is good
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> Good? You call having Roe v Wade overturned good? It is not good. It is the Religious Reich attempting to control people, especially women. It’s none of their damn business what a woman and her doctor conclude medically. No one has the right to decide a woman’s health care, except her and her doctor. What this will do, if it does go through is kill women, who could have been saved and leave living children motherless. High risk women and poor women are especially vulnerable. Rich women can find means to get what they need.
How will it kill women?
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/25 "2022-05-05T02:57:33Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSYaPidCzWo)
# Opinion To End ‘Roe’ Shredded For Saying Abortion Bans Don’t ‘Discriminate’ Against Women
> MSNBC’s Ari Melber highlights how women’s bodies and choices would be controlled by men under the Supreme Court’s draft ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade, despite the fact that more women are in government now than ever before.
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> Melber traces how, historically, attacks on this right have long run through overwhelmingly male legislatures, pointing to a 1980s Pennsylvania law that attempted to narrow “Roe” as evidence.
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> Melber also breaks down Justice Alito’s claim that abortion rules do not “discriminate” by gender.
> **[Opinion | A close reading of Alito's draft abortion ruling reveals these 8...](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/roe-v-wade-overturned-supreme-court-abortion-draft-alitos-legal-analys-rcna27205)**
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> It overrules decades-old precedent to impose conservative justices’ anti-abortion views because they finally have the votes to do so.
> # 8 legal reasons to dislike Justice Alito’s draft opinion on abortion
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> It overrules decades-old precedent to impose conservative justices’ anti-abortion views because they finally have the votes to do so.
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> **1. The opinion claims that the right to abortion is not deeply rooted in our nation’s history and tradition.**
> **2. The opinion relies on history and tradition alone to determine our rights.**
> \*\*3. The opinion reaffirms that pregnancy discrimination is not sex discrimination.
> **4. The court casually dismisses the equal protection clause.**
> **5. The opinion claims there is nothing wrong with letting legislatures determine abortion access.**
> **6. The opinion puts many other rights at risk.**
> **7. The opinion violates the principle of separation of church and state.**
> **8. The opinion engages in shameless hypocrisy.**
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> **Related:**
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> - [**Susan Collins’ statement on the leaked Roe draft is astounding**](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/susan-collins-roe-abortion-stance-was-doomed-supreme-court-votes-rcna27227)
> - [**DeSantis signed Florida’s 15-week abortion ban bill. He may be in for a rude awakening.**](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/gov-desantis-rude-awakening-15-week-abortion-law-rcna24456)
> - [**Will the Supreme Court once again favor the rights of Christians over everyone else?**](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/supreme-court-prayer-case-rights-christians-football-coach-rcna25673)
PS
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJCGAA4VYT8)
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/26 "2022-05-05T03:00:37Z")
There have been years since 1979 when no woman died from having an abortion. This is something that should be zero.
> **[Fact-check: Did Roe v. Wade mark 'the end of women dying from abortions'?](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/17/fact-check-roe-v-wade-texas-abortion-law-women-deaths/8468747002/)**
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> The number of women dying from causes related to abortion had been declining in the decades before the landmark Roe v. Wade decision.
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/27 "2022-05-05T03:10:07Z")
Angry That Justice Alito’s Draft Opinion Was Leaked? Don’t Be. - Vivia Chen
> **[Angry That Justice Alito’s Draft Opinion Was Leaked? Don’t Be.](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/business-and-practice/angry-that-justice-alitos-draft-opinion-was-leaked-dont-be)**
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> Supreme Court insiders are in a tizzy that Justice Alito’s majority opinion overturning Roe was leaked. But does anyone else care about the breach of decorum?
> … “Gravest, most unforgivable sin.” “Sacred, sacrosanct.” And “a terrible blow to the court’s morale and process and legitimacy.” My goodness.
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> Permit me to give you the peasant’s view of the high court: I find it very hard to get worked up that the leak is the biggest scandal in the high court. Yes, I know it’s unprecedented and shocking to insiders who’ve graced the halls. But from where I sit, the Supreme Court is certainly not sacred or sacrosanct, and, sadly, not always legitimate.
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> …
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> All that might be true but did the leak really pose a threat to the integrity of the high court? Or is that belief based on some quaint, romantic notion?
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> I posed that question to Feldman, and he emailed me: “The court still has (had) plenty of legitimacy after gay marriage, holding back Trump and overturning lots of his worst decisions. Its polling numbers have been much better than other gov. institutions.”
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> Maybe better than some government institutions but that’s not saying much. According to a 2022 [poll by Marquette University Law School](https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/06_SCCourtPressRelease.pdf), 53% say the court is “mainly motivated by politics” in its decisions, compared to 47% who believe that law is the main motivator.
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> That same poll also finds that support for the Supreme Court continues to fall: in 2020, 66% approved of the court v. 33% who didn’t.
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> Today, the approval rate has dropped to 51%, while the disapproval rate has risen to 46%.
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> The reality is that the court is polarized and partisan—and that’s how most Americans see it too.
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> And what better example of extreme partisanship than Alito’s draft opinion?
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> Alito writes that _Roe_ was “egregiously wrong from the start,” that “its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences”—as if overturning _Roe_ would result in only good consequences.
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> He also had the audacity to say that _Roe_ and related decisions “have enflamed debate and deepened division"—as if his decision would heal the nation.
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> At one point, Alito also plays a very cheap race card, writing in a footnote that early supporters of abortion rights “have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” adding that “it is beyond dispute that _Roe_ has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
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> So Alito is now a protector of Black Americans? Who knew?
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> Of course, most notable of all, the opinion isn’t just chipping away at _Roe_ ; it calls for its total destruction.
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> So can we skip the pretense that the Supreme Court is above the political fray? Or that the justices are high priests of the Constitution?
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> Believe me, a leak of a pending opinion from its inner sanctums is the least of its problems.
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> To contact the columnist: Vivia Chen in New York at [vchen@bloombergindustry.com]
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### Author:  [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/28 "2022-05-05T07:07:52Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> How will it kill women?
You must be too young to remember
The dying begins when they start trying to abort by themselves by means of a wire coathanger or by some drug addicted butcher in a rat-infested back ally abortion “clinic”
A man-made law is meaningless to a desperate person. It does not make them a criminal. It makes them a victim.
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/29 "2022-05-05T12:46:21Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> How will it kill women?
[https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/how-many-women-die-from-unsafe-abortions/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/how-many-women-die-from-unsafe-abortions/)
[Russell Falcon, Nexstar Media Wire](https://www.newsnationnow.com/author/russell-falcon-nexstar-media-wire/)
> Posted: MAY 3, 2022
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> … The [World Health Organization](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion) estimates that 30 women die for every 100,000 unsafe abortions in developed regions, while 220 women die for every 100,000 unsafe abortions in developing regions, where abortion access is limited or impossible. The term “unsafe” refers to both self-induced methods and illegal procedures performed by non-physicians.
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> At least 22,800 women die each year from unsafe abortions, per a 2018 report from [Guttmacher Institute](https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2018/new-report-highlights-worldwide-variations-abortion-incidence-and-safety), a reproductive health research and policy nonprofit. The researchers analyzed death information available through the year 2014.
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> Overall, WHO says 7 million women per year went to the hospital after unsafe abortions in developing areas alone, per 2012 estimates. Forty-five percent of all induced abortions are unsafe, the organization says. Methods of unsafe self-induced or illegal abortions can be violent, including sharp objects being inserted through the vagina or ingestion of toxic substances, [Doctors Without Borders](https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/unsafe-abortion-forgotten-emergency) explains.
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> Ninety-seven percent of all unsafe abortions take place in developing countries, where access to abortion is limited or impossible, WHO reports. DWB backs up this figure, explaining the organization works in many of these regions performing daily traumatic care to women who are hurt from unsafe abortions.
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> Non-fatal trauma of unsafe abortions include, sepsis and unintended organ puncturing. DWB says these conditions often require major surgeries or “the complete, and irreversible removal of the uterus. …”
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/30 "2022-05-05T13:29:46Z")
> # Lawrence: Alito’s Draft Opinion Quotes A Man Who Believed In Witches
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> > With the Supreme Court poised to overturn Roe v. Wade, MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell takes a look at the reasoning behind Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion and explains how it is the result of minority rule in America.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-ozv-v6oU)
## Oh dear the Supreme Court is indignant that their precious privacy has been invaded. The horror! While they [Goose Step](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2003/01/goose-stepping-the-dance-craze-of-tyrants.html) their way through woman’s privatest concerns. The State has no right to dictate that woman must bear children, that isn’t in the freak’n US Constitution either!!!
Why doesn’t a woman have a right to self defense?
Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that abortion has existed throughout human history?!!
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**YES, a woman’s life is more precious than a fetus, which remains a human potentiality, until it takes on the mantle of personhood at birth!**
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[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxubzb9vUsg)
> The Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade would both criminalize women and undermine women’s health, experts tell Joy Reid. A look at Catholic Ireland’s realization that the Right of Woman matter.
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### Author:  [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/31 "2022-05-05T14:01:41Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> How will it kill women?
[[GOP viciousness reaches new heights - Right Wing Extremist SCOTUS declares war on women - #21 by morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/21)]
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### Author:  [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/32 "2022-05-05T16:12:02Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> So Alito is now a protector of Black Americans? Who knew?
If I was a woman, I wouldn’t hire Alito as a divorce lawyer.
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### Author:  [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/33 "2022-05-06T02:08:17Z")
> [@write4u](#):
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> > [@thatoneguy](#):
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> > How will it kill women?
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> You must be too young to remember
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> The dying begins when they start trying to abort by themselves by means of a wire coathanger or by some drug addicted butcher in a rat-infested back ally abortion “clinic”
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> A man-made law is meaningless to a desperate person. It does not make them a criminal. It makes them a victim.
I suspect the coat hanger method is very uncommon with the availability of abortion drugs.
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### Author:  [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/34 "2022-05-06T02:43:49Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> I suspect the coat hanger method is very uncommon with the availability of abortion drugs.
Those drugs will be outlawed. If a taxi driver can get reported for driving a woman to an abortion clinic , any drug store selling an abortion drug will be guilty of assisting in the abortion and be closed down.
You just have no idea about the Pandora’s Box this ruling will open. It will set the clock back 100 years.
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### Author:  [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/35 "2022-05-06T03:02:50Z")
> [@write4u](#):
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> Those drugs will be outlawed. If a taxi driver can get reported for driving a woman to an abortion clinic , any drug store selling an abortion drug will be guilty of assisting in the abortion and be closed down.
You’ve got a point there.
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### Author:  [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/36 "2022-05-06T04:57:14Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> You’ve got a point there.
GOP wants to fill our country with rape dads. There’s an interesting point to think about.
Here’s another few points to chew on:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsK8cscdglY)
> MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell details the years of lying and hypocrisy from Republicans and Republican-appointed Supreme Court Justices on abortion rights.
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 10:42am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/37 "2022-05-06T10:42:30Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> GOP wants to fill our country with rape dads.
Don’t forget abusive husbands who don’t believe in marital rape.
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### Author:  [@morgankane01](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/morgankane01)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/38 "2022-05-06T11:52:40Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> How will it kill women?
Other answer:
[[Polish activists condemn abortion law after death of another pregnant woman | Euronews](https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/26/polish-activists-condemn-abortion-law-after-death-of-another-pregnant-woman)]
If you were a doctor, would you practice an abortion, even of a dead fetus, if you know you risk to be jailed ?
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/39 "2022-05-06T12:48:46Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#):
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> How will it kill women?
If a woman is high risk and the only way to save her life is to terminate the pregnancy, then the inability to get an abortion will cause her to die. Coat hanger abortions are deadly, as well as things like Belladonna, if a woman takes more than needed to terminate the pregnancy. The list goes on and on. BTW, being pregnant is a risk, in general. Many women have and still can die during childbirth. Throw in preeclampsia, HELLP Syndrome, and other high risk health factors that happen during pregnancy and in some cases, not being able to terminate can mean death even today. Another condition, in which a fetus must be expelled is when the fetus dies in the uterus. If not removed, a woman can end up with sepsis and die from it. The dead fetus must be removed and even this is considered an abortion in some cases (don’t ask how the Religious Reich figures this, but they do. They insist a woman must carry the dead fetus until the body decides to expel it and even then in they may consider a miscarriage (medically called spontaneous abortion) a crime too, except the woman could die from sepsis before her body expels the dead fetus. A lot can go wrong during pregnancy.
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### Author:  [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/gop-viciousness-reaches-new-heights-right-wing-extremist-scotus-declares-war-on-women/9418/40 "2022-05-07T01:16:27Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#):
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> GOP wants to fill our country with rape dads. There’s an interesting point to think about.
How would that work?
Are fathers going to start raping their daughters if abortion is overturned?
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