# From the WaPo. Nice piece **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [October 5, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485 "2023-10-05T07:41:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/1 "2023-10-05T07:41:49Z")
I’ve just skimmed it so far, but very thoughtful. Relates to politics and family life > **[Opinion | America doesn’t need more God. It needs more atheists.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/03/kate-cohen-atheism/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjk2MzkyMDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjk3Nzc0Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTYzOTIwMDAsImp0aSI6ImU2NTczMjU0LTBlOWEtNDAyMS1iNWQwLWMxNzU3NmUyOWJmYyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDIzLzEwLzAzL2thdGUtY29oZW4tYXRoZWlzbS8ifQ.Mn4alKuBVUZuHL2qj4k7BpKU4N8uyroaqOmJTC8eM-A&itid=gfta)** > > Atheists know that people, not God, are responsible for making the world — and for solving its worst problems. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/2 "2023-10-06T01:40:02Z")
Two things come to mind: It is completely unconvincing to anybody who is not already on that side. Written by a Jew who ultimately fears Christian Nationalism. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/3 "2023-10-06T02:09:47Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Written by a Jew who ultimately fears Christian Nationalism. You topped your most idiotic comment with that one. Don’t say “Jew”. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/4 "2023-10-06T03:49:42Z")
You have to do something about that liberal oversensitivity. What could possibly be wrong with calling a Jewish person a Jew? That is the universal term for a member of that group. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/5 "2023-10-06T06:27:29Z")
> [quote=“thatoneguy, post:4, topic:10485, full:true”] > You have to do something about that liberal oversensitivity. > > What could possibly be wrong with calling a Jewish person a Jew? That is the universal term for a member of that group. Keyword: “group” Technically one could also call a Jewish person by his “citizenship” name, “Israeli”. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/6 "2023-10-06T09:00:08Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > What could possibly be wrong with calling a Jewish person a Jew? It was what you said about the Jew. Nothing in the article showed any fear. Their religious orientation had very little to do with the theme of the article. Anyone could have made the same critiques of believers and have been accurate. There was no reason to bring it up. You have made inaccurate statements about ethnicities and religions in the past. Read a book before make a comment like that again. I’m telling you this as a friend. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/7 "2023-10-07T04:25:55Z")
> And in this particular political moment, we need Americans to stand up to Christian nationalists who are using their growing political and judicial power to take away our rights. Atheists can do that. Here it is crystal clear. That Jew is afraid of Christian Nationalism. > [@write4u](#): > > Keyword: “group” > Technically one could also call a Jewish person by his “citizenship” name, “Israeli”. One could but it is too confusing. “Jew” makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/8 "2023-10-07T04:32:02Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > That Jew is afraid One definition of fear is “the likelihood of something unwelcome happening.” You are using it very differently. The ancestry of the person who recognizes potential unwelcome outcomes from Christian Nationalists is irrelevant to their assessment. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/9 "2023-10-11T01:43:58Z")
Context matters. Jews have global industry of this stuff so it makes sense to put 2 and 2 together. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/10 "2023-10-11T02:23:44Z")
What stuff? And what are you adding up? Are you saying they both control global industry and are afraid some idiot with a gun is going to take it away? ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/11 "2023-10-11T03:04:38Z")
Wherever Jews live they attempt to influence things for their own benefit. As an outsider population in most of the world, any sort of nationalism – other than their own – is worrying to them and they do whatever they can to stifle it. They are usually sucessful. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/12 "2023-10-11T04:24:35Z")
That’s so wrong, thatoneguy, on so many levels. It’s racism, stereotyping, bigoted… Then again, you’ve always been that way, so what else is new about you? ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/13 "2023-10-11T10:17:25Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Wherever Jews live they attempt to influence things for their own benefit. Do you know how Jews became bankers? That is all they were allowed. Borrowing from wealthy Jews was a common practice by poor princes. If things went wrong , the debt did not have to be repaid. So Jews became very good at assessing future potentials. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/14 "2023-10-11T12:56:06Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Wherever Jews live they attempt to influence things for their own benefit. Ate there people who attempt to influence things for the benefit of others and not themselves? Are there people who don’t attempt to influence anything and just accept their lot in life? Personally, I like people who attempt to influence things for the benefit of all. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/15 "2023-10-12T02:17:05Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > > [@thatoneguy](#): > > > > Wherever Jews live they attempt to influence things for their own benefit. > > Do you know how Jews became bankers? That is all they were allowed. Borrowing from wealthy Jews was a common practice by poor princes. If things went wrong , the debt did not have to be repaid. > So Jews became very good at assessing future potentials. Correct, but that does not excuse using their talents for malevolent purposes. > [@lausten](#): > > Personally, I like people who attempt to influence things for the benefit of all. All the more reason to raise awareness of their destructive actions. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/16 "2023-10-12T03:14:58Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > Correct, but that does not excuse using their talents for malevolent purposes. When did Jews become more malevolent than the people who used them for centuries? The Jews I knew were nice and generous, I do know some other malevolent (insert race or religion)… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/7/2/7281f6db95cb35cdfdc9c25763fba00969502f13.png) ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/17 "2023-10-12T10:44:15Z")
> [@thatoneguy](#): > > All the more reason to raise awareness of their destructive > actions. You haven’t named any destructive practices. Your argument is circular ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/18 "2023-10-13T01:59:27Z")
In this country their outsize political lobbying power and their control of media are well known worldwide. ---
**Author:** ![thatoneguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/thatoneguy/32/28536_2.png) [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/19 "2023-10-13T02:17:33Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > > [@thatoneguy](#): > > > > Correct, but that does not excuse using their talents for malevolent purposes. > > When did Jews become more malevolent than the people who used them for centuries? > The Jews I knew were nice and generous, I do know some other malevolent (insert race or religion)… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/centerforinquiry/original/3X/7/2/7281f6db95cb35cdfdc9c25763fba00969502f13.png) Jews have always been seen as a problem by everyone they’ve interacted with throughout history. There’s a reason they’ve been kicked out of everyplace they’ve ever lived, and why antisemitism is called the most ancient and widespread hatred. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485/20 "2023-10-13T02:18:10Z")
@thatoneguy, what are you talking about? What country and how is what you say known worldwide? Apparently it isn’t. > [@thatoneguy](#): > > Jews have always been seen as a problem by everyone they’ve interacted with throughout history. The’ve been a problem? That’s news to me. Some of my good friends are Jews and they haven’t been a problem to me. > [@thatoneguy](#): > > There’s a reason they’ve been kicked out of everyplace they’ve ever lived, and why antisemitism is called the most ancient and widespread hatred. Really? Seems to me they are still in the U.S. and are not hated by everyone. I like Jews. [Next page](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/from-the-wapo-nice-piece/10485.md?page=2)