Fox News, at apex of 'ecosystem of disinformation.'

So you don’t get it do you?
Murdoch and FOX have been on a decades long, well, basically a brainwashing campaign. Nothing on the news media landscape came close to that until, Bannon and Breitbart started how the extreme right wing how to really go ballistic, and it became the right wing handbook.

As for your baiting, name me one news outlet, that’s on top of it and honestly reporting on the reality of the state of our planet, industrial accident, state of our biosphere and state of our climate system?

But like the man in the movies say, “you can’t take the truth”, although, not sure anyone can at this point.

I think that the libel award will give us an indication of the harm this lying outfit has brought to the world.

I hope it will teach the Trump world a lesson about the wanton deceit they were part of.
If I were religious I would consider Trump and Fox news as a demon den, out to destroy the goodness and generosity that mankind can muster.

Common dreams and medialens.

Look out for the new thread on the rail disaster that has blood of both trump and obamas hands

I was born in 1955, my parents were eclectic, and into keeping up on current events and taking their kids to interesting places and helping us develop individual talents. That’s important because since a child I was aware of what a pivotal moment humanity had reached.
By the time I started high school in 1969, society had become well aware of the situation, our emissions were a big problem, as was over fishing, and deforestation, and the military industrial complex. By then we, as a people, had also learned that air pollution went well beyond smog, it went high up into the very atmospheric insulation that made life on Earth possible in the first place.

Long story short, our knowledge and our numbers were increasing exponentially, yet we lived on this isolated finite island of life and wonder, spinning way in a cold lifeless universe. The balance sheet of natural systems was disregarded, heck it was treated with contempt.

We had a fantastical planet with natural resources beyond the counting, and a climate system that was moderate and predictable.
On a down to Earth physical reality factual basis, it was finally dawning on scientists that Earth was finite and it could only support X amount of people, extracting Y amount of resources.

Were that balance and the tipping points that came with it where, was a point of much debate, but the fundamental reality of the problem and the inexorably dangerous trend was plain as simple math.

The scientists did their best to convey their findings and tell the story of Earth and her history. As a proactive spectator I can tell you it’s been an amazing ride of discovery and enlightenment this past half century. Most importantly, all of this incoming information was reaffirming the tenuous nature of humanity’s reign over Earth and the admonition to go forward deliberately, with much forethought and an obligation to future generations in our hearts.

A cold sober look at the global situation and it’s obvious that we needed to slow down.
Yes. Slow down.
Rather than racing to consume ever more and more, faster and faster, we needed to learn to moderate our consumption. Even more importantly, we needed to change our attitude towards Earth and to invest in protecting and nurturing the natural world and oceans. Finding a healthy balance between all our material desires and maintaining a healthy planet and leaving our descendants a health future.

Here we are 2023 and the collapse is happening, small, here a little, there a little, but every season a few more hits. Too little water, too much water, too much heat followed by outrageous storms, from here on out, it’s a crap shoot. As will be, the grocery shelves, that we’ve taken so for granted, for oh so long.

Metalhead, I can’t feel your pain, there’s no depth to it, you’re just flailing, wish you’d up your game.

I do feel my own pain and buddy it’s deep, mingled with memories of learning to dash under my desk with butt towards windows at the the sounding of a horn. I heard the lessons politicians and business leaders professed to have learned. I learned to listen to the talk and watch the walk and have been sorely disappointed too often. Nothing changed. Even though we had, arguably, the most educated, democratic global society ever.

Turned out human avarice saturates the human race, the haves, up-and-comers, chasers, even our poor, when given half a chance.

Worse, the masses have had to double down with astounding disconnect and commitment to out’n out delusional thinking, unable to muster the imagination, nor courage, to consider the consequences of their hateful double dealings with others, and stupid decision towards this planet we depend on.

Here at home, USA was supposed to be a pluralistic society, where we worked together and learned from each other. Where we honestly faced our mistakes and consequences, thereby learning some lessons to help guide the rest of our days.

So here we are, you don’t like MSM, but are fine with Twitter, and it seems you don’t appreciate the irony.

okay, touche’

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And in what way was Obama involved in that disaster?
Provide a link with proof that Obama had anything to do with that rail disaster.
You are now walking a tightrope slinging sh*t around to see what will stick.

YEARS BEFORE EAST PALESTINE DISASTER, CONGRESSIONAL ALLIES OF THE RAIL INDUSTRY INTERVENED TO BLOCK SAFETY REGULATIONS
Records show an all-out push to delay and repeal train safety regulations.

By May 2015, when the Obama administration issued its rule following a number of oil train accidents, the industry coalesced in opposition.

Squires, speaking at another investor event in May of that year, confirmed that Norfolk Southern would oppose the ECP mandate. “We believe that the new braking systems are unjustified from a cost-benefit perspective,” said Squires.

He noted the rail industry and his company would fight back against the brake technology mandate, “in some form or another … but there’s no question challenges are coming.” (Norfolk Southern did not immediately respond to a request for comment.)

The rail, oil, and chemical industries — including trade groups such as the Association of American Railroads — filed opposition, citing costs, to the Obama administration. The organizations also filed a lawsuit in administrative court and brought an appeal to the District of Columbia Circuit, attempting to overturn the rule. The challenge was mitigated, however, by the Thune legislation that pushed back the implementation.

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Or,

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Like my mom used to say: “One hand washes the other.”


On the record this is being reported:

By Ian Duncan, Luz Lazo and Michael Laris

February 18, 2023

… according to a memo drafted later by a Transportation Department lawyer: It was an opportunity for Norfolk Southern to raise concerns about a proposed federal rule that would require trains, in most cases, to have two crew members. …

… The meeting illustrates the two faces of Norfolk Southern and the railroad industry at large. It presents itself as a backbone of the nation’s economy — a safe and relatively green way to transport freight. At the same time, labor leaders and federal officials say, it aggressively resists proposed regulation by Washington, opposing new safety standards while searching for loopholes through existing rules.

… Norfolk Southern, the nation’s fourth-largest railroad with a record $12.7 billion in revenue last year, is now on the defensive, tied to images of black plumes of burning vinyl chloride over East Palestine, where a 149-car train derailed Feb 3. As the National Transportation Safety Board investigates the cause of the derailment …

… Railroads spend heavily while lobbying in Washington, according to records analyzed by the transparency organization Open Secrets. Norfolk Southern is among the biggest spenders, paying $1.8 million last year for the services of 36 lobbyists. …

The general disregard for consequences and accepting responsibility seems universal and for me, incomprehensible.


Lee Fang - February 21 2023

… IN A SPIRITED exchange nearly eight years ago, Sen. John Thune scoffed at his committee colleagues when they raised concerns that legislation he sponsored would add years of delay for train safety regulations. …

… Thune voted down a Democratic amendment to nix the delay before moving to a full committee vote. His Senate office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. …

… Thune’s legislation was part of an industry push to kill the ECP mandate, review of lobbying, congressional, and court records show. Around the same time as he advanced delaying provisions in omnibus transportation legislation, Thune also introduced another bill to entirely eliminate the mandate for implementation of ECP. …

Where to lay blame? I’d suggest the entire industrial, corporate, political, mindset, that makes safety and health standards some sort of demon-enemy to destroy.

As david sirota put it, this disaster is a bipartisan effort in avoiding safety regulation. Obama the neoliberial listened to the chemical lobby and not the National Transport Safety Board for the safe transport of hazaardous chemicals.
As a result class 2 hazardous chemicals (highly flammable ) were removed from the requirement of electronic braking systems on the neoliberal fake news premise that best regulation is self regulation. That was obamas doing.
What trump did was repeal these limited regs that only applied for oil cargo. Both the dems and repubs have skin in this game.

Vinyl chloride is in the class 2 category and biden has yet to fix this or made any indications that he will. In fact when rail workers tried to strike warning the public of falling safety stds and lack of maintenance biden signs the bill to stop strike going ahead cutting workers off at the knees.

See Sirota’s interview here at 11.06 minute mark

See bidens bill here

Let me quote some excerpts from this article and demonstrate the shortsighted mind that constructed this heartfelt piece of duplicitous journalism.
This is no reflection on the Guardian itself which does a reasonably honest job of reporting the news.
In this case the report is an emotional rather than a legal pleading and asks for solutions that cannot be delivered by the president unilaterally without action by congress.

To wit:

People will point out that strikes are disruptive. Yes. That’s the point. A rail strike would be so disruptive that the rail companies probably would have given up the sick days to prevent it – and if they didn’t, the White House could have weighed in on the side of the workers to make them.

This is scenario of RR capitulation is based on pure conjecture. And the WH could not have weighed in on the side of the workers. The best Biden could have done was to bring the issue to congress to make a new law, that might have taken weeks to formulate, while bringing the nation to the point of total financial collapse.

An executive order dictating the RR to accede to the workers’ demands would have been an act of dictatorship and unconstitutional.

Instead, it did the opposite, and rescuing hope for those workers fell to Bernie Sanders and to progressives in the House, who forced congressional leaders to move a separate bill to guarantee the sick leave they were asking for. As usual, it was the left that went to the trouble of fighting for labor after the party’s mainstream sold it out for the sake of convenience.

And how was Biden instrumental in resolving this Congressional issue? Let me remind you that a president is president of ALL the people without prejudice.

Organized labor is in an abusive relationship with the Democratic party. For decades, Democratic administrations have failed to prioritize labor issues and stabbed unions in the back, and the union establishment has always showed up with a big check for them in the next election.

Oh, and Republican administrations have always prioritized labor issues!!!

I think this is an exaggerated statement that has no merit… It seems to me that all the Democratic administrations have always prioritized the middle class (labor force) with all kinds of social assistance programs.

It is true that whereas Republican administrations always started with tax-cuts that favored Big Business and their prosperous owners, Democratic administrations maintained a status quo with BB.

However, Biden has reversed this negligence by establishing a tax increase on the very wealthy to achieve a form of equality in tax obligation on all income recipients.

I guarantee you that this will happen again after this betrayal by Joe Biden. (You may have already noticed that few union leaders have been brave enough to criticize the White House directly on this issue.)

Due to time restraints in a fragile economy, Biden had no choice but to resolve the issue in the only way he could by ordering the acceptance of a previously agreed upon settlement by the majority of unions, but opposed by 4 of the 12 unions.

Four of the 12 railroad unions representing a majority of the railroad workforce have rejected a tentative new union contract agreement which fails to address their concerns. If any of the 12 unions go on strike, each union has agreed to honor the picket line.

“Joe Biden blew it,” said Hugh Sawyer, treasurer of Railroad Workers United, a group representing workers from a variety of rail unions and carriers. “He had the opportunity to prove his labor-friendly pedigree to millions of workers by simply asking Congress for legislation to end the threat of a national strike on terms more favorable to workers. Sadly, he could not bring himself to advocate for a lousy handful of sick days. The Democrats and Republicans are both pawns of big business and the corporations.”

Under the Railway Labor Act, workers’ right to legally strike is limited in transportation services. The last railroad strike in the US occurred in 1992 for two days before Congress intervened.

And how would Biden be involved in the Congressional deliberations?

The House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said Congress would take up legislation on Wednesday to stop a nationwide strike that would honor the original labor union agreement brokered by the Biden administration in September to avoid industrial action ahead of the midterm elections.

So where did Biden fail in his responsibility not only to the unions but to the entire nation that depends on the prompt delivery of goods in an already compromised infrastructure, which also requires the urgent need to be addressed as well as provide thousands of good paying wages and stimulus to the nation’s economy?

He is no miracle man or dictator who can ignore constitutional laws that are in force, lest his administration will be tied up in court for an indefinite time, while the nation’s economy collapses on all fronts.

Remember that “free enterprise” (capitalism) is at the heart of the issue.

Personally, I am against unrestricted capitalism, but that does not mean the president can just assume the “authority” to act unilaterally for or against a select class of the population.

It is so easy to level criticisms, but they are seldom accompanied by potential solutions.

Ignore the part about obama siding with the chemical lobby over the national transport safety board. Damage contol

I gotta wonder how closely did you listened to the interview? You want to blame Biden, you want to blame Obama, but David Sirota, was pretty clear that it’s a compounding bi-partisan problem with a lot of history and lots of players.

The president’s administration chose political cowardice

“Political Cowardice.” Do you wonder about where that comes from?

What are We The People doing to stand behind the few politicians willing to stand up to industry lobbyists?

How much support and pressure do we put behind politicians wanting to increase safety regulations?

Incidentally, have you donated any money to Senator Whitehouse, or Representative Katie Porter lately? If not, why not?

How about FOX Right Wing Extremist Propaganda Outlet?
What have you been doing to help expose their un-American hate-mongering, and propagandizing, which has done as much to stupefy and destabilize America as anyone? Been doing anything to confront them?

How about our expectations, too much is never enough, have you been wrestling with that reality? We want cheap clothing, food, stuff, and of course, more of it, much more of it, if we can afford it - but we don’t’ want to know what’s happening at the other end, it’s not our problem . . .

I don’t know how old you are, my impression is your new to all this, but these issues and the denial and avoidance and the kicking the can down the road - makes us all guilty.

So does that mean there’s no difference between an Obama/Biden and the Trump/Desantis clowns out there?

Sure there is, one wants to work with what we have,
the other wants to burn it all down, so long as they wind up with the Power.

They are all clowns but the biggest clowns are their apologists.

Lets summarise what david has said. Why not?

Really not surprised that either party gave in to industry. Blaming Presidents is too easy. Voters have long sided with deregulation, smaller government, state’s rights, on and on. Corporations love this environment and love seeing people argue about negotiations that they know nothing about because they aren’t public.

It never fails though, as soon as the lack of regulation causes a problem in their backyard, they blame the government for not doing what they told them to not do.

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Railroads fought to crush rules **at Biden aims to revive after Ohio derailment

Thats the headline. Can anyone find this biden aims in the article.?Corporate media spin?

“Voters have long sided with deregulation,”
Prove it. Who here supported the workers strike?

govt regulation of business is so ambiguous. The emvironmental regs survey outcome below that makes this point.

And that makes your observation relevant?

This is the argument

Extending Deregulation
Make the U.S. Economy More Efficient
Robert W. Crandall

Summary
Since the 1970s, deregulation has succeeded in increasing overall economic welfare and sharply reducing prices , generally by about 30 percent, for transportation— including air travel, rail transportation, and trucking—and for natural gas and telecommunications. Few industries remain subject to classic economic regulation in the United States.

To help remove some of the last vestiges of such controls, the next President should:

ƒ promote full deregulation of all voice telephone services

ƒ oppose “network neutrality” initiatives for broadband telecommunications
that would interfere with pricing innovations designed to relieve network
congestion

ƒ within the electricity sector, support market reforms (such as real-time
pricing) and incentives for expanding or preventing overloads in transmission
grids and distribution networks and allow states to proceed at a measured
pace in deregulating electrical generation

ƒ promote competition among airports and privatization of air traffic control in order to improve the pricing of airport landing rights and reduce air traffic congestion

ƒ back “open skies” or “cabotage” approaches to international air travel and
allow more foreign investment in domestic airlines

Even more important, the next President should act to restrain government
> interference in markets that does not quite amount to classic economic regulation.

So, what do you have to say about the Brookings Institute?

it tells me the brookings Institute is a right wing think tank and that you have no thoughts on safety and environmental regulations

The above is in response to your missive that the president is negligent in his duties as if they are clearly defined and simple to implement in a system that professes “unfettered free enterprise”.

Personally, I have posted many times that I am against unrestricted capitalism and self-regulation by for-profit corporations.

What about that shows my lack of thoughts on safety and environmental regulations?

It’s time you got out of that self-centered bubble you are trapped in and did a little more reading on several subjects that have been discussed for many years on this forum and you are just now “discovering”.

Expand your horizons, then you will be able to discuss these matters “in-depth” instead of throwing around meaningless soundbites.

Lausten, well said,
metalhead, sound advice.