# Describing a sustainable civilization **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [December 28, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757 "2021-12-28T15:10:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/41 "2022-11-02T03:00:06Z")
You’re not saying anything, which could be a form of trolling, as per rules. Please read the rules. When you give short posts that say nothing, people have no clue what you are saying and it doesn’t contribute to the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/42 "2022-11-02T03:18:41Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > . I didnt think this would need clarification It did. No need to get offended when that’s pointed out. ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/43 "2022-11-02T03:51:31Z")
Here to help assist your education. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 6:01am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/44 "2022-11-02T06:01:23Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > short term planning of politicans for electrical purposes that have long term implications. I didnt think this would need clarification Is English your first language? I ask because expressions like "short term planning of politicians for electrical purposes " make no sense and do need clarification… 🤔 Do you mean “electoral puposes”? ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/45 "2022-11-02T06:19:16Z")
Sorry… typos do occur… ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/46 "2022-11-02T12:52:38Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > Here to help assist your education. This is not a good attitude. The purpose here is discussion, backed up by facts and evidence and logic. Topics are often controversial and don’t have clear answers. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/47 "2022-11-02T17:02:08Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > Here to help assist your education. These are the statements we are referring too. They say nothing and contribute nothing. 3e of the rules (FAQs): > **_e._ “Trolling”** is not allowed. This can include posts that don’t contribute anything because they need to be clarified. WIthout facts and evidence to back up the statement, there is nothing to reply to and have a civil debate. You are just making a statement that means nothing. ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/48 "2022-11-03T07:39:15Z")
> [@mriana](#): > > This can include posts that don’t contribute anything because they need to be clarified. WIthout facts and evidence to back up the statement, there is nothing to reply to and have a civil debate. You are just making a statement that means nothing. Deescalation skills would go a long way here instead of acting like a tyrant ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/49 "2022-11-03T07:40:19Z")
> [@lausten](#): > > The purpose here is discussion, backed up by facts and evidence and logic. Topics are often controversial and don’t have clear answers. Evidence for an observation on the machinations of short term politicking is quite a demand ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/50 "2022-11-03T09:59:15Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > quite a demand Yes. And we’re not against opinions or speaking out about what’s bothering you. It’s you that said you wanted to educate. You don’t educate by saying something is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/51 "2022-11-03T10:12:34Z")
> [@lausten](#): > > You don’t educate by saying something is obvious. Maybe- if its news to you that our rulers make decisions based on the electoral cycle. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/52 "2022-11-03T12:48:07Z")
Now, what does that mean? That politicians say what voters want to hear? Not news ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/53 "2022-11-03T14:26:07Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > Evidence for an observation on the machinations of short term politicking is quite a demand Demand on what? It’s like I read that sentence and it’s okay, that’s plain enough, but it doesn’t actually say anything anyone of can do anything with. It’s like white bread, no actual substance. I have the feeling you got better in you, and the die-hards around would really really love to have a decent constructive informative conversation, a little civility, a little self-deprecation, a little empathy for others that might not have your experience or knowledge, a little understand that all of us are flawed, a little willingness to do some teaching, most of us are doing the best we can with what we have. But it’s always a two way street - the energy you send out, is the energy others have to work with. I’d love to find out a little more about what you think and how you justify the way you think, but first you need to help us understand how you think. At least I’m assuming you showed up in good faith and that at heart you’re not just another troll. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/54 "2022-11-03T15:07:04Z")
@ [ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers) > [@citizenschallengev4](#): > > At least I’m assuming you showed up in good faith and that at heart you’re not just another troll. For one I’d like to hear about your choice of “nom de plume” Are you an Anarchist? If so, why? ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/55 "2022-11-03T15:54:03Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > Deescalation skills would go a long way here instead of acting like a tyrant I’m hardly a tyrant. I gave you plenty of chances to make posts that are clearer than your one line statements that mean nothing or make any sense, causing you to sound like a troll. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/56 "2022-11-03T15:58:04Z")
> [@citizenschallengev4](#): > > It’s like white bread, no actual substance. ROFL! Maybe he is white bread and has no actual substance. Sorry, I couldn’t resist when you said that. That said, and in all seriousness, you seem to understand what I am trying to get across to him. If you understand, even though it wasn’t addressed to you, why doesn’t he understand? ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/57 "2022-11-03T21:07:28Z")
Your approach is way too aggressive and an unwelcoming style that doesnt facilitate openings in discussion. ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/58 "2022-11-03T21:08:07Z")
“I’d love to find out a little more about what you think and how you justify the way you think, but first you need to help us understand how you think.” "For one I’d like to hear about your choice of “nom de plume” Here comes the cavalry No worries. I just got here!! ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/59 "2022-11-03T21:48:15Z")
> [@ruleswithoutrulers](#): > > Your approach is way too aggressive and an unwelcoming style that doesnt facilitate openings in discussion. So you say. Let’s see you improve now. There’s another newbie here and he posted very well for his first post. It made sense and contributed a lot to the conversation. It is doable. ---
**Author:** ![ruleswithoutrulers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/ruleswithoutrulers/32/18_2.png) [@ruleswithoutrulers](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/ruleswithoutrulers)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/describing-a-sustainable-civilization/8757/60 "2022-11-03T22:02:06Z")
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