# Conspiracy theories **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics and Social Issues\ **Created:** [March 3, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171 "2023-03-03T19:05:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/1 "2023-03-03T19:05:15Z")
This could just as easily be posted in “pop culture”, but people who take these things seriously are an issue. I just listened to episode 15, but others are also good. They are mostly adults describing how their parents went from intetesting to hateful. It’s good insight into how this movement took hold [https://play.stitcher.com/show/1028763](https://play.stitcher.com/show/1028763) It’s caled the q dropped podcast of you want to search other platforms ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/2 "2023-03-04T01:49:27Z")
This conspiracy has been running now for 6+ years. Still doing the rounds in the cocktail scene > **[6 Years of Russiagate Lies! (with New Info)](https://www.youtube.com/live/FJ2KlE-_-ok?feature=share)** > > My show is LIVE on Mon, Wed, and Saturday at 2pm ET/ 11am PT. I am one of the most censored comedians in America. If you want to see my work continue, become... ---
**Author:** ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/3 "2023-03-04T03:22:06Z")
> [@metalhead](#): > > This conspiracy has been running now for 6+ years. Still doing the rounds in the cocktail scene > > [https://www.youtube.com/@RealLeeCamp](https://www.youtube.com/@RealLeeCamp) > **Lee Camp** (born July 21, 1980) is an [American](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America) [writer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writer), comedian, podcaster, news journalist and news commentator. As a [television host](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_host) he presented the show _Redacted Tonight_ for several years on the Russian state-funded network [RT America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_America) until it was shut down after [Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine).[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Camp_(comedian)#cite_note-:0-1) In July 2022 he started a new show, Most Censored News with Lee Camp with [MintPress News](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News). > … > After RT America shut down in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Camp blamed the “U.S. government war machine” for the end of the network.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Camp_(comedian)#cite_note-:0-1) Following the closure of RT, Lee started a new show, Most Censored News with Lee Camp; featured with MintPress News, beginning in July, 2022. So you think this guy is some sort of unbiased cool intellect, I’m supposed to take seriously? You think? I ask because he sounds like another very biased clown, then a quick look at his bio, reveals, golly gee, he’s got his share of baggage and nothing to indicated he’s done any deep thinking or deep homework. But he’s a comedian and every once in a while one of them guys is full of amazing surprises, but that certainly doesn’t mean that every wannabe comedian has their act together. > Camp’s first book was _Neither Sophisticated Nor Intelligent_, a collection of his best humor columns from _The Cavalier Daily_, the [University of Virginia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia) newspaper. With Nick Alexander and Alan Lord, Camp co-authored the 2005 _BIGfib Book of Bollocks_, a collection of stories from the [satirical website](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satirical_news_websites) [BIGfib.com](http://BIGfib.com). Camp has been a contributor to _[The Onion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion)_ since February 2009 and was a staff comedy writer for _[The Huffington Post](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Huffington_Post)_ for ten months.[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Camp_(comedian)#cite_note-5) He wrote and hosted [OnDemand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnDemand)’s “The Movie Loft” for three months in 2009. > > In 2017, Camp and Eleanor Goldfield created the _Common Censored_ podcast, which focuses on [grassroots activism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grassroots_activism) issues.[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Camp_(comedian)#cite_note-6) > > ### RT America > > Camp was the host and head writer of the weekly comedy news show _Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp_, which aired on [RT America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_America). … A more sober review ( **that is, one worth paying attention to** ) would have started with considering these findings and working out from there. Instead the red comedian Camp comes up with soundbites, very selective memory and attitude. Pretending this information isn’t out there, is no argument against it. > **[Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/)** > #### Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony before Congress represents a critical opportunity for the legal community to help the American people understand what is in his March 2019 _Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election._ > > The following summary presents key findings from the Mueller Report and is intended to help lawyers and other concerned citizens speak and write about the Special Counsel’s findings in an informed manner. The summary was prepared by the Presidential Investigation Education Project, a partnership between the American Constitution Society (ACS) and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) to promote an informed public evaluation of the investigations of Special Counsel Mueller and others into Russian interference in our elections. > > **[Click here for a downloadable fact sheet](https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ACS-CREW-Final-Mueller-Report-Highlights.7.19.pdf).** > > **[This resource is a part of ACS’s Mueller Investigation resources. Click here to see all resources.](https://www.acslaw.org/mueller-investigation/)** > > ### **The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity** > > - The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice. > - Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses. > - A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would [likely be indicted](https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1) for multiple charges of obstruction of justice. > > ### **Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the U.S. election system in 2016** > > - Russian interference in the 2016 election was “sweeping and systemic.”[[1]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn1) > - Major attack avenues included a social media “information warfare” campaign that “favored” candidate Trump[[2]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn2) and the hacking of Clinton campaign-related databases and release of stolen materials through Russian-created entities and Wikileaks.[[3]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn3) > - Russia also targeted databases in many states related to administering elections gaining access to information for millions of registered voters.[[4]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn4) > > ### **The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks’s releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton”** > > - In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[[5]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn5)Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent. > - Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”[[6]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn6) > - Beginning in June 2016, a Trump associate “forecast to senior [Trump] Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton.”[[7]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn7) A section of the Report that remains heavily redacted suggests that Roger Stone was this associate and that he had significant contacts with the campaign about Wikileaks.[[8]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn8) > - The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering. > - The Report contains no evidence that any Trump campaign official reported their contacts with Russia or WikiLeaks to U.S. law enforcement authorities during the campaign or presidential transition, despite public reports on Russian hacking starting in June 2016 and candidate Trump’s August 2016 intelligence briefing warning him that Russia was seeking to interfere in the election. > - The Report raised questions about why Trump associates and then-candidate Trump repeatedly asserted Trump had no connections to Russia.[[9]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn9) > > ### **Special Counsel Mueller declined to exonerate President Trump and instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct** > > - The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[[10]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn10) and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[[11]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn11) > - The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President. > - Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious: > - In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[[12]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn12) months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[[13]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn13) > - After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[[14]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn14) > - In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[[15]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn15) > - In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[[16]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn16) > - The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.[[17]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn17) > > ### **Congress needs to continue investigating and assessing elements of the Mueller Report** > > - The redactions of the Mueller Report appear to conceal the extent to which the Trump campaign had advance knowledge of the release of hacked emails by WikiLeaks. For instance, redactions conceal content of discussions that the Report states occurred between Trump, Cohen, and Manafort in July 2016 shortly after Wikileaks released hacked emails;[[18]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn18) the Report further notes, “Trump told Gates that more releases of damaging information would be coming,” but redacts the contextual information around that statement.[[19]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn19) > - A second issue the Report does not examine is the fact that the President was involved in conduct that was the subject of a case the Special Counsel referred to the Southern District of New York – which the Report notes “ultimately led to the conviction of Cohen in the Southern District of New York for campaign-finance offenses related to payments he said he made at the direction of the President.”[[20]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn20) > - The Report also redacts in entirety its discussion of 12 of the 14 matters Mueller referred to other law enforcement authorities.[[21]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn21) > - Further, the Report details non-cooperation with the inquiry by the President, including refusing requests by the Special Counsel for an interview; providing written responses that the Office of the Special Counsel considered “incomplete” and “imprecise” and that involved the President stating on “more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not recall’ or ‘remember’ or ‘have an independent recollection.’”[[22]](https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/#_ftn22) > **[The Moscow Project](https://themoscowproject.org)** > > Investigating Trump’s involvement in Russian attacks on our Democracy. [https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/) > **[Putin Most Likely Directing Election Interference to Aid Trump, C.I.A. Says...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/us/politics/cia-russian-election-interference.html)** > > The assessment, which the agency has moderate confidence in, buttresses earlier findings that the Russian president supports President Trump’s re-election. > **[G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html)** > > A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry. [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/) ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/4 "2023-03-04T11:29:18Z")
Have to be a dill to mix up accusations of being uncooperative with russiagate? Attacking the man instead of the ball is Cc s game. What a dirty player ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/5 "2023-03-04T13:48:37Z")
I don’t think Lausten started this thread for people to post what they believe are conspiracies. I think he posted it to discuss what is in the video he posted. ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/6 "2023-03-04T14:06:38Z")
It’s ironic that something with a ton of evidence, investigated by multiple levels of law enforcement gets labeled as a false conspiracy theory, while pure speculation and accusations are believed to be possibly true. ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/7 "2023-03-04T16:19:40Z")
Alternate reality. I believe it’s a result of Internet conditioning ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/8 "2023-03-04T20:57:49Z")
Tons of evidence of … fill in the blanks . ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/9 "2023-03-04T21:23:54Z")
> [@metalhead](#): > > fill in the blanks That is pretty much the definition of what a conspiracy theorist does. And if there is actual evidence, it can be rejected to create a blank. ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:33am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/10 "2023-03-05T06:33:01Z")
Evidence for what? Speak clearly ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/11 "2023-03-05T13:30:09Z")
A Troll-bot response. ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/12 "2023-03-05T22:38:01Z")
> [@lausten](#): > > something with a ton of evidence, Something being trump obstructing or with russian interference. Youre not clear in your communication. Why is it always the one with the most power in the room the most thinned skin? ---
**Author:** ![lausten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/lausten/32/23705_2.png) [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/13 "2023-03-05T22:46:31Z")
I’m not taking your bait. I choose how to spend my time, including what to respond to. I don’t know you, don’t care for your comments, don’t find you interesting. My skin has nothing to do with it and I don’t know what power you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![metalhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/metalhead/32/14404_2.png) [@metalhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/metalhead)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/14 "2023-03-05T22:52:36Z")
I asked you a fair question, but It doesnt matter to me if you dont want to talk it. Your efforts to shut down conversations not to your liking is a common theme with you . ---
**Author:** ![write4u](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/write4u/32/23410_2.png) [@write4u](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/write4u)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/15 "2023-03-06T01:33:35Z")
> [@metalhead](#): > > You’re not clear in your communication. I have no problem with lausten’s clarity in communication. Perhaps you should pay closer attention to what is being said. Perhaps then you won’t need to ask stupid questions about your own “clever” comments. Do you really think that your suggestion of “tons of evidence…fill in the blanks” is communicating? > [@metalhead](#): > > I asked you a fair question, but It doesnt matter to me if you dont want to talk it. Your efforts to shut down conversations not to your liking is a common theme with you . a) you did not ask a fair question but made a meaningless statement. b) it was you who shut down the conversation with your “fill in the blanks” . Instead of placing the burden on your host; if there is a “ton of evidence” why don’t you “fill in the blanks” that accompany every one of your vague insinuations and allegations? The burden of proof falls on you, not lausten. ---
**Author:** ![mriana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/mriana/32/18174_2.png) [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/conspiracy-theories/10171/16 "2023-03-06T14:41:11Z")
> [@write4u](#): > > I have no problem with lausten’s clarity in communication. I don’t have a problem with it either. I think metalhead saying that is just another way for him to troll.