I would call the first one "dialogue" and I'm not sure a debate format is conducive.
hmmm, I think there might be many scientist who would disagree - there are some quite heated debates that have gone down,
that have still adhered to honesty and acknowledging the truth in other's statements and weaknesses in one's own
as the differing view points are hammered out.
I think you've... and the rest of society, seems to have fixated on the phony political style debates as though
that's all there is to confrontational dialogue. But, what's to be expected of a society obsessed with me, me, me
to the point they can't even see what's happening outside their comfie shelters (mental as well as physical).
Oh and to begin with, isn't a constructive debate a form of dialogue? anyways