# Biden goes to Saudi arabia
**URL:** https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues
**Created:** [July 17, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702 "2022-07-17T09:59:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/1 "2022-07-17T09:59:52Z")
And begs Mohammed bin Salman, to increase oil production. Also reminds him that what he did to Jamal Khashoggi was a violation of the international human rights to which was the reply you can talk - what happen in Abu Ghraib prison?
> **[Biden fist bumps MBS, but still fails to coax Saudis into signing oil deal](https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/16/685719/Biden-fails-coax-Saudis-into-signing-oil-deal)**
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> US President Joe Biden’s visit to Saudi Arabia will not produce a deal to make the Saudis pump more crude.
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### Author:  [@mrmhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mrmhead)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/2 "2022-07-17T13:41:15Z")
It’s not like he came back and said “MBS says he didn’t do it … So I believe him”
He also agreed with Israel PM that Iran shouldn’t get nukes, but disagreed on how to prevent it.
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/3 "2022-07-17T13:42:46Z")
> [@vegansrock1](#):
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> And begs Mohammed bin Salman
How do you know he begged? He could have just asked in order to cut a deal.
> [@vegansrock1](#):
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> Also reminds him that what he did to Jamal Khashoggi was a violation of the international human rights
How do you know it wasn’t some sort of arrangement, a reminder that the U.S. still holds some power as to whether or not he is charged with some sort of human rights violation? Of course, it would be awful if he got off on charges all because an agreement to supply the U.S. with climate damaging and creature killing oil.
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/4 "2022-07-17T15:08:34Z")
It’s really not worth talking to someone who adds emotional language to diplomatic encounters. I remember Republicans saying Obama shouldn’t talk to any enemies at all. That tune changed significantly with Trump. If they can’t discuss the issues themselves, it’s not a conversation.
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/5 "2022-07-17T22:13:46Z")
The fist pump with a murderer of a country that biden said he would call out as a pariah state when he was president.
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/6 "2022-07-17T22:19:51Z")
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/7 "2022-07-17T22:54:39Z")
What do you think Biden should do?
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/8 "2022-07-17T23:01:38Z")
> [@mrmhead](#):
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> He also agreed with Israel PM that Iran shouldn’t get nukes, but disagreed on how to prevent it.
Biden has agreed with and maintained trumps policy towards iran in pursing to iolate and threaten iran and rejects obama’s P 5 +1 iran nuclear deal
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/9 "2022-07-17T23:09:02Z")
What is a pariah state?
> **[What Is A Pariah State?](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-is-a-pariah-state.html)**
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> A nation that is considered as an outcast by the international community is called a pariah state.
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### Author:  [@thatoneguy](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/thatoneguy)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/10 "2022-07-18T01:47:49Z")
A President should never fist bump – let alone an 80 year old president. But America is not a serious country anymore.
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/11 "2022-07-21T20:24:29Z")
Biden has covid. That trip turning into a real flop
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/12 "2022-07-22T01:43:57Z")
> [@vegansrock1](#):
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> Biden has covid. That trip turning into a real flop
Oh Russian lover, just because he got COVID does not mean the trip was a flop. Gas prices are slowly going down and he did get some Climate Change contributing oil from the Saudis.
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### Author:  [@vegansrock1](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/vegansrock1)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/13 "2022-07-22T05:32:31Z")
He got a fist pump and covid
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### Author:  [@mriana](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mriana)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/14 "2022-07-22T11:26:45Z")
> [@vegansrock1](#):
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> He got a fist pump and covid
No, he got a fist bump and COVID. What’s your point? It was bound to happen because he didn’t wear a mask when interacting with the public. I currently work at Walmart as a cashier, despite a degree, and I now wear an N95, as well as fully vaccinated and double boosted. So far, I’ve not gotten COVID-19, as far as I know. Even before I started wearing an N95, I was wearing a cloth mask with 2 filters in it. So, I’ve been extremely cautious as a cashier. Have to be and President Biden should have been too, not just to set an example, but to protect himself.
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### Author:  [@mrmhead](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/mrmhead)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/15 "2022-07-22T12:06:32Z")
> [@vegansrock1](#):
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> Biden has covid.
Nothing to hide there.
How is your hero doing?
He looked a little fidgety standing there waiting for Erdogan.
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### Author:  [@russianguy0](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/russianguy0)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/16 "2022-11-22T08:59:58Z")
Oh dear — Biden administration grants immunity to Saudi crown prince, murderer of Jamal Khashoggi
> **[Biden’s decision to grant MBS immunity is a profound mistake | Mohamad Bazzi](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/21/bidens-decision-to-grant-mbs-immunity-is-a-profound-mistake)**
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> After being repeatedly humiliated by Prince Mohammed, Biden continues to appease an autocrat who disdains him
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/17 "2022-11-22T13:18:19Z")
This is a discussion forum. Not a place where you post articles with quips. Engage with logic and evidence, or don’t post at all.
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### Author:  [@russianguy0](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/russianguy0)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/18 "2022-11-23T21:44:12Z")
Remember bidens talk about declaring saudi arabia a pariah state?
Sen. Tom Cotton says it all: “What matters most about governments around the world is less whether they’re democratic or nondemocratic and more whether they’re pro-American or anti-American.”
With “American” meaning Wall Street and US imperialism.
So let there be no more talk about US standing up for human rights, humanitarian interventions and promoting democratic values, a force for justice and good You can be as a brutal and oppressive as the saudi regime but as long as you dont challenge the global capital order and the US world order you will be supported by the US.
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### Author:  [@lausten](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/lausten)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/19 "2022-11-23T23:23:02Z")
> [@russianguy0](#):
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> says it all
One sentence does not equal “all”
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### Author:  [@russianguy0](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/russianguy0)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/biden-goes-to-saudi-arabia/9702/20 "2022-11-24T00:16:21Z")
> [@lausten](#):
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> One sentence does not equal “all”
Id est - nothing more needs to be said. But you know that.
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