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I hope you post something interesting someday.Say that to yourself. And when you do, try to act on it.
The forum won’t let me post my input in one post, so here is the second part Lausten:
Meanwhile, here's a question for you live with. If you only need a basic elementary knowledge of the English language to KNOW what's in the Bible, why are people who have seminary degrees, and spending every week studying the scripture so they can speak on it having so much trouble? Not only do they seem to believe the people in the pews need to hear another lesson every Sunday, they can't get together and agree with each other about what the scripture means. If they could, the trend would be toward greater spiritual unity and greater understanding across borders and fewer denominations. Instead, we see the exact opposite. Why is that?You're talking about your Cult. Look up what the NT says about it. OH, never mind, I forgot you can't read. Oh, well.... Luke 1:52-53 says this: --((( He has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. ... He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty handed. )))-- And as far as "NEEDING" the people in the pew don't need anything it is your cult that led them to believe it is a mortal sin to not attend mass, because they know Sunday is PAY DAAAAY.... GET IT? or more like capisce? ... As I said:::::: The bible answers its own questions. One does not need to go to child rapist for advice.
And I do my deeds as far as practicing my Christianity as best as I can.In effect it becomes a matter of semantics. You call it Christianity, I call it Humanism. If the result is the same, then the Terms we use are basically irrelevant. "Walking the walk" is more important than "Talking the talk". IMO. :kiss:
And as far as "NEEDING" the people in the pew don't need anything it is your cult that led them to believe it is a mortal sin to not attend mass, because they know Sunday is PAY DAAAAY.... GET IT? or more like capisce?I don't know why you keep saying things about Catholics. I was a United Methodist for 17 years, now I'm atheist. And the question was about all Christians. You know, the ones who go to church every Sunday, all over the world.
And I do my deeds as far as practicing my Christianity as best as I can.In effect it becomes a matter of semantics. You call it Christianity, I call it Humanism. If the result is the same, then the Terms we use are basically irrelevant. "Walking the walk" is more important than "Talking the talk". IMO. :kiss: Before you walk the walk, you have to talk it First in your head or with someone else. Humanism is relative. Christianity isn't. It is tolerant but it isn't relative. It might be inclusive of humanism though, based at least on the Romans 2:14 verse as well as other verses that back that one up.
And as far as "NEEDING" the people in the pew don't need anything it is your cult that led them to believe it is a mortal sin to not attend mass, because they know Sunday is PAY DAAAAY.... GET IT? or more like capisce?I don't know why you keep saying things about Catholics. I was a United Methodist for 17 years, now I'm atheist. And the question was about all Christians. You know, the ones who go to church every Sunday, all over the world. you can run but you cannot hide. And you're not Atheist, you're Catholic. I was Muslim and I was not afraid of saying so. That is until I found out the truth then I changed my base. Have at least the courage to mimic that. And stop being condescending to those who seem to know couple of thing you are not willing to get off your bum and go learn. That's the least you can do.
Luke 1:52-53 says this:I get it that the Bible says that Jesus is great. I already pointed that out. I said it didn't say much else. Your reasoning is circular. http://trulyfallacious.com/logic/logical-fallacies/presumption/circular-reasoning
And as far as "NEEDING" the people in the pew don't need anything it is your cult that led them to believe it is a mortal sin to not attend mass, because they know Sunday is PAY DAAAAY.... GET IT? or more like capisce?I don't know why you keep saying things about Catholics. I was a United Methodist for 17 years, now I'm atheist. And the question was about all Christians. You know, the ones who go to church every Sunday, all over the world. you can run but you cannot hide. And you're not Atheist, you're Catholic. I was Muslim and I was not afraid of saying so. That is until I found out the truth then I changed my base. Have at least the courage to mimic that. And stop being condescending to those who seem to know couple of thing you are not willing to get off your bum and go learn. That's the least you can do. This is escalated quickly. And bizarrely. Go away.
Luke 1:52-53 says this:I get it that the Bible says that Jesus is great. I already pointed that out. . Your reasoning is circular. http://trulyfallacious.com/logic/logical-fallacies/presumption/circular-reasoning "you get it that the bible says that jesus is great"?!?!?!?! didn't you say you were Methodist? Don't the Methodist like the catholics read the bible? I guess the Methodists are as much of AIR HEADS as the Catholics are, huh?!?! no wonder you picked that one to hide behind and to run from the other. I guess you relate as far as airheadedness.
I said it didn't say much elseTo you it comes across that way because you are illiterate. IT takes A literate person to find out the content of the bible. Try to remember that.
And as far as "NEEDING" the people in the pew don't need anything it is your cult that led them to believe it is a mortal sin to not attend mass, because they know Sunday is PAY DAAAAY.... GET IT? or more like capisce?I don't know why you keep saying things about Catholics. I was a United Methodist for 17 years, now I'm atheist. And the question was about all Christians. You know, the ones who go to church every Sunday, all over the world. you can run but you cannot hide. And you're not Atheist, you're Catholic. I was Muslim and I was not afraid of saying so. That is until I found out the truth then I changed my base. Have at least the courage to mimic that. And stop being condescending to those who seem to know couple of thing you are not willing to get off your bum and go learn. That's the least you can do. This is escalated quickly. And bizarrely. Go away. Some things are worth saying twice:
Have at least the courage to mimic that. And stop being condescending to those who seem to know couple of thing you are not willing to get off your bum and go learn. That's the least you can do.As the saying goes: "If you cannot run with the big dogs, remain on the porsch.". Not that I think I am a big do. I am just little bug. who happens to know couple of things. I am not going away. You asked the question. Now have the ... you know what to digest the answer. IF you are not capable of respecting people who respect you. Then simply stay from them. Very ELEMENTARY.
As the saying goes: "If you cannot run with the big dogs, remain on the porsch.". Not that I think I am a big do. I am just little bug. who happens to know couple of things. I am not going away. You asked the question. Now have the ... you know what to digest the answer. IF you are not capable of respecting people who respect you. Then simply stay from them. Very ELEMENTARY.Your answer is the same one that every spiritual so-called "teacher" has ever given. That is, that the answer is right in front of me. Then, if I say what's in front of me, and it doesn't meet their standards, then I didn't do it right, I need to go back and pray and read whatever, but this time, REALLY read it. I could have created you as a composite character and written a program to spit out the responses you are currently giving.
As the saying goes: "If you cannot run with the big dogs, remain on the porsch.". Not that I think I am a big dog. I am just little bug. who happens to know couple of things. I am not going away. You asked the question. Now have the ... you know what to digest the answer. IF you are not capable of respecting people who respect you. Then simply stay from them. Very ELEMENTARY.Your answer is the same one that every spiritual so-called "teacher" has ever given. That is, that the answer is right in front of me. Then, if I say what's in front of me, and it doesn't meet their standards, then I didn't do it right, I need to go back and pray and read whatever, but this time, REALLY read it. I could have created you as a composite character and written a program to spit out the responses you are currently giving. NO!!! my answer is not the same, liar!!!! It never has been. That is if you have been paying attention and actually reading my posts. And, When the frack did I EeeeeeVER, Ever CLAIM I was "a spiritual teacher"??!?!?!?! we're just talking here. Or are you on some Nasty, very nasty Psychotropic crap? YOu have not ADDRESSED a single point I brought up so far. YOu are Nothing but A flagrant FRAUD. And the only thing you think is going to cover that up is Either by insulting me or bringing up false accusations just like any other crook out there would do to cover their tracks. You have nothing upstairs, Nor are you willing to take that book, and really read it, and study it, and LEARN from it as you Most desperately need it. Furthermore, you claim that the bible is empty on one hand,,,,,, BUT on the other you GROSSLY AND DISGUSTINGLY fart that theologians have been fighting to explain it so they could teach it to the rest of us for millennia!!!!! Well, which is it?!?!?! is it EMPTY as you repeatedly and obliviously blubbered,,,,, or is it full and in fact so full and dense, that it is too complex for the tiny empty head that you have to even think about tackling?!?!? More like the ladder I am afraid.... Why are you even bothering taking whatever garbage class you are taking? Just quit. You are doing it for the wrong reasons. and I never said "go back" and "pray more", you lying crook. Shame on you. Like I said, you have nothing to say and you try to cover that up by making up sh*t as you go along. Never dealt with someone so marred in corruption and stupidity in my life. PS:::: BTW, if you are using a catholic version of the bible, and I suspect you are, considering your oblivion and ignorance, threw it in the garbage as they are all shallow as far as linguistics, not to mention full of dung as far as accuracy. And they do that to disinterest their cattle from ever wanting to study the bible because they know bible is Power. They want them to come to child humper to ask it what does for example a verse such as: "Jesus wept" ~John 11:35~, which is the shortest verse in the NT,,,, Meaaaans. As if that needs to be explained. And according to your stupid teachers, if the person tries to explain such verse as "Jesus wept" verse ON THEIR OWN, they RISK misinterpreting it!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO ROFLR Like a new ager-author said about a similar parallel fraud, something along the lines of : "you are standing over me, blocking my view of the divine. get out of my way!!!!" Let me give you an advise for charity's sake: get off from underneath your priest's fat ass and get out into the open, so you could smell some fresh air and think for yourself. That's what Jesus, The Gate, The Amen, the Chief Cornerstone, The Word, The Teacher, etc. would want for you. ...that is if you want to learn something about him and from him and not from the crooks you usually kiss up to.
YOu have not ADDRESSED a single point I brought up so far.I stopped reading at this point. You need to seek help with your emotional problems. You said you wanted to talk to me about the New Testament. I called that "teaching", no big deal, nothing to get upset about. Call yourself whatever you want. Correct me when I'm wrong if you want. No need to get weird about it. The only "point" you made is that I should read the Bible. Please list any other points, and I will gladly respond to them. 1
InBetween said, From being spiritually marooned, from perdition. And perdition is relative as it manifests under multiple forms.I'm sorry to say that I think you need to consult the dictionary for the meanings of words. Being from Holland myself, I often consult the dictionary , in order to know that I am using the correct terms, such as "marooned" and "perdition" which has nothing to do with being "marooned". Moreover, when your brain dies, your "soul" (identity) dies with it as far as you are concerned. Your legacy may live on in infamy, such as the legacy of Hitler, but Hitler himself is dead and disintegrated into atoms and molecules. But to give you an example; there might be a beautiful rosebush blooming over Hitler's grave, which uses the nutrients of Hitler's disintegrated body. And even as the memory of Hitler's tyranny still lives on in our minds, Hitler himself couldn't care less. He is dead and utterly detroyed. The point I am making is that the "soul" is metaphor for "legacy", a memory which continues to live on in say, the Neo-Nazis, who when they die most likely will also leave a legacy of "discrimination" if not "incrimination". This what is meant by "spiritual existence" during one's life. But when you die, you personally cease to exist as a sentient being. Therefore the term "living in Hell" is also a metaphor. The entire concept of a "spiritual existence" after you die is an abstract metaphor. When you die, you're dead, that's it, period. You won't experience anything after you die. But other "living" people may suffer or benefit from your legacy. As Anil Seth remarked" "You don't have to be smart in order to experience suffering, but you do have to be alive"..... :down:
YOu have not ADDRESSED a single point I brought up so far.I stopped reading at this point. ...Because you have no good honest answers to them. I got that, Now I am moving on. You should do the same.
YOu have not ADDRESSED a single point I brought up so far.I stopped reading at this point. ...Because you have no good honest answers to them. I got that, Now I am moving on. You should do the same. No, because I could see it was a mix of Bible verses and LMAOROLF childish crap. If by "moving on", you mean you are leaving this forum, please do so, but this is a skeptic's forum, so we expect reasons and evidence for what you say, not Bible verses to prove the Bible is awesome. Telling people that's how it works is what I do. This is what a point looks like: Jesus is the name of a character in a collection of scriptures from the 1st to 3rd centuries. Those stories have been copied, collected, translated and altered over the centuries. People continue to discuss their meaning, from deeply profound implications that affect our daily lives, to old stories that have lost their relevance. That's something you could respond to.
Okay, I did you the courtesy of reading your long useless post. I’ll respond to this one thing.
“Furthermore, you claim that the bible is empty on one hand, BUT on the other you GROSSLY AND DISGUSTINGLY fart that theologians have been fighting to explain it so they could teach it to the rest of us for millennia!!!”
Because a lot of people have taken interest in the scriptures does not mean they have actual value. If you look at what Origen thought of them, then what Aquinas thought, you will see a vast difference. Compare that to all the choices you have now, and you’ll see it hasn’t much mattered that all those people studied, they can’t agree. You keep telling me what NOT to do, but you haven’t so much as picked a Bible translation that you prefer. I have a KJV from my grandmother and an NIV. I also use BibleGateway, which has most of them. If you can’t name one and say why you prefer it, then, do you really know what you are talking about?
No, because I could see it was a mix of Bible verses and LMAOROLF childish crap....1/-Childish crap? you mean YOURS, RIGHT?!?!? because you PROVED to be incapable of following through BASIC ELEMENTARY CHRISTIAN CONCEPTS. One time you say the "bible is empty" and then the next you say "Theologians have been discussing it's content for 100's of years and still cannot get it sorted out, therefore, there must be something in there that makes it that complicated as well as complex". (how many times I told you that, dunder head??!?!?) 2/-When you say "mix", I KNOW it's because you small tiny head is that MIXED Up over everything I've told you so far. 3/-LMAOROFLR stands for L aughing M y A ss O ff R olling O n T he F loor And I was laughing at you because you are very stupid person. simple. Good bye now. Go back to playing with your toys and don't forget to take your psychotropic crap to calm you down.
Okay, I did you the evil stupidity of Not comprehending your basic elementary post. I'll respond to this one thing. ....F off, FRAUD. I am not interested in anything a Con Artist has to say. F off. Or are you now attached to me? Go get your meds.