# Belief that is believed to be factual

**URL:** https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/belief-that-is-believed-to-be-factual/10052
**Category:** Politics and Social Issues
**Created:** [December 26, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/belief-that-is-believed-to-be-factual/10052 "2022-12-26T16:21:00Z")
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### Author: ![citizenschallengev4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.centerforinquiry.org/citizenschallengev4/32/28718_2.png) [@citizenschallengev4](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/u/citizenschallengev4)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/belief-that-is-believed-to-be-factual/10052/10 "2022-12-28T01:17:44Z")

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> [@lausten](#):
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> Should I go yell out of a window?

Nah I think about simple things.

For instance, why in the world did Democrats allow MAGA Trumpsters being questioned to get away with: “The plead the fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth” “The fifth”

When it should have been demanded that each and every time they say the full sentence.

“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”  
“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”  
“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”  
“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”  
“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”  
“I plead the fifth on the grounds that it might incriminate me.”

Every freaking time, no exception.

Simple things like that would go along way, but it so seldom seems to happen.  
Or,  
When someone gives those grossly misleading response, that are fundamentally dishonest, call them on it.  
Make an effort to confront the lies with facts and coherent stories to explain the real situation.

But it would also require the DNC to do a better job of informing Democratic grassroots about issue, and education them regarding how to respond. Because both of us agree that talking to someone you know has a better chance of getting through, then preaching to a stranger.

It’s also why I believe something like this would be a win win for the Democratic Party, if it ever wants to get past the wet noodle phase. It’s be very interesting watching some of the new crowd in Congress.

> [@The Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum. Why not?](https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/the-democratic-party-online-discussion-forum-why-not/8989):
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> Well I’ve had a horrible case of writer’s block and avoidance, but finally broke the spell today and think I managed a descent first draft. We’ll see what I think of it tomorrow. I’m sharing it in the off chance someone has any thoughts or suggestions to share. This is about the final draft wink (never say never) The Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum. What can the Democratic Party do to win back the tens of thousands of Americans they have been alienating? People who care but who…

> [@lausten](#):
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> Should I tell them that they did make me mad, and now I’m going to respond with an irrational tirade just like them?

There’s a big difference between that and **standing your ground intellectually, humanistically.**

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